Identify Tactical Unit Sign

[Luftflotte2]

So this photo was taken in Ukraine in 1941. I looked through the appropriate sites and can't find an exact match but it looks like a Luftwaffe motorized radio company. The straight line going into the symbol usually means telephone operations and to the right is KG for kampfgeschwader. The other photos confirm that the unit worked with bombers, so I guess this is an ground to air communications unit? What is the correct name for it? What is the KG symbol?

I should also add that in 1942 a KG symbol appears on the right fender. See the second image.

Juli 1942, Stalino.JPG (16.28 KiB) Viewed 858 times

Sources:
http://www.ebay.de/sch/leica-graf-muens ... pg=&_from=
http://www.feldgrau.com/tacsym.html
http://www.niehorster.org/011_germany/s ... 41-lw.html

[SES]

Hi,
The sign on the MC s corectly from a Funkaufklärungs unit.
bregds
SES

[Luftflotte2]

The symbol on the truck fender looks like KG55 http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... r/KG55.htm. Does that mean this Funkaufklärungs unit worked only with KG55?

[Alanmccoubrey]

The tactical signs on the sidecar are for a Radio Company, the "propeller" sign under it is to show that it belongs to the Luftwaffe. I can't see anything on the sidecar to indicate any "aufklärungs" affiliation so I believe that the motorcycle belongs to a Radio Unit which is near to KG55.

[Luftflotte2]

But the tactical sign also includes the letters KG so that's why I assumed it had relations with a bomber unit. Additionally I saw trucks in the photo album carry the symbol of KG55. This Mercedes (WL-2178) has both symbols as you can see. That's why I have made this assumption.

[Alanmccoubrey]

No it includes the letter K and the number 6, the normal meaning of a Letter/Number after the tactical sign would be to show the position within the unit. The truck showing both signs does suggest that the Radio Unit belongs to KG55, sadly we can't make out what number/letter combination it has beside the signals sign.

[Larry D.]

Luftflotte2 -

You were right in your initial post at the top of the thread. Every Kampfgeschwader had its own Ln.-Kp.:

KStN: 3383 (L) Luftnachrichten-Kompanie (Mot) eines Kampfgeschwaders (Air Force Signals
Company (Motorized) of a Bomber Geschwader)
1 Oct 43: 6 officers and 324 enlisted; 80 motor vehicles

The four Gruppen belonging to the Geschwader each had a Ln.-Zug from the Kompanie attached to it. Each had full radio and telephone capability.

L.

[Luftflotte2]

Thank you Larry! That clears it up nicely.

Alan, I zoomed in on a different photo so you can see it is definitely a G instead of a 6.

[augustdieter]

Hello

the tactical signs is to identify not clearly
In my opinion it is a "Funk-Betriebs-Trupp eines Kampfgeschwaders"

The photo column is also a Proof of acceptance


Example as an attachment

[Larry D.]

Guten Abend Augustdieter,

I must need a new pair of glasses because the vertical line on the left side looks thicker that any of the other vertical or horizontal lines. But then, maybe it's just me.

L.

[augustdieter]

Hi Larry,

I must need a new pair of glasses because the vertical line on the left side looks thicker that any of the other vertical or horizontal lines

fishing for complienents, eagle Eye

It lies on the unfavorable angle of pictures.
If any frontal photo is emerging that can not be solved
My second approach "Die Kolone" give in the direction to a "Trupp"

But the question remains, coy. or not, no clou?

Dieter

[Larry D.]

Hi Dieter,

The problem is that there were no separately identifiable Ln.-Trupps for a Kampfgeschwader. The only other possibility would be this one:

KStN L 3353 - Luftnachrichten-Zug (mot) einer seldständigen Kampfgruppe.

But KG 55's four Gruppen were organic not independent.

I just went through the list of KStNs for all Ln.-Einheiten, so I am 99% certain this is correct.

Best,

Larry

[augustdieter]

Hi Larry,

The problem is that there were no separately identifiable Ln.-Trupps for a Kampfgeschwader.

you're right. I had not considered and therefore
is your solution probably the correct interpretation

Do you have the KSTN L 3353 in your documents?

But KG 55's four Gruppen were organic not independent.

In the Luftwaffe almost anything was possible. It will have been determined a reason why the "Zug" was a part of the KG 55
Maybe the point dissolves even.

Gruss Dieter

[Luftflotte2]

Thank you for your information Gruss. I tried magnifying some vehicles and it looks more like kompanie instead of trupp.

[Luftflotte2]

Here is a Citroen with a clearer view of KG55 on the fender. Nice photo.