The enigmatic Rowehl Reconnassaince Gruppe (Luftwaffe)

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The enigmatic Rowehl Reconnassaince Gruppe (Luftwaffe)

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Post by varjag » 23 Oct 2003, 13:29

Anyone out there with info on the so called 'Rowehl-Gruppe'? This was a long-distance recce formation, 'Aufklärungsgruppe der Befehlshaber der Luftwaffe', that is, directly under Göring himself. These were the guys who operated deep into Soviet and other territories with exotics like the Do 215, Ju 86P and Ju 88S under command of Colonel Rowehl. I am particularly interested in operations over the Soviet Union BEFORE the German attack on 22.6.41, but any info of their operations over Egypt and Syria are also welcomed. Sometimes it has been called the Rowehl-Geschwader but it seems to never have exceeded more than about 4 Staffeln or something of the order 40 - 60 aircraft for special reconnasaince duties required by the German high command. Over to you guys......varjag

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Post by Simon Gunson » 20 Oct 2006, 08:44

Varjag,

Hitler ordered von Rowehl's staffel to Bulgaria in mid February 1940 to perform reconnaisance flights over Russia and Roumania's oil fields. His unit was under Abwher orders rather than Luftwaffe's as far as I can gather.

From General Jodel's diaries recounted at the Nuremburg trials one learns that in May 1940 Hitler rejected a request by the Luftwaffe to set up a "listening post" in the Caucusus.

At the Nuremberg trials Admiral Raeder gave evidence that von Rowehl's brief from Bulgaria in February 1940 included not only to recconoitre as far as the Caucusus, but also into Syria and Turkey.

Raeder said the germans feared the formation of an army in Syria known as the Orient Army under General Weygand. French and British aircraft formations were present in Syria. Abwher had learned that The anglo french allies in Syria had sought permission from turkey for overflights to bomb the oilfields at Baku.

Luftwaffe had sought permission to set up listening posts along routes which allied aircraft would have to fly to make strikes against Baku. Hitler forbade this.

Later after capturing French papers it became apparent the British and french had plans before the downfall of France to bomb oilfields in Baku and neutral Roumania.


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Post by varjag » 20 Oct 2006, 12:53

Kiaora Kiwikid! And thanks for that snippet....u're trawling DEEP to find that old mail. But - I love to read every bit of this nebolous LW unit, also yours. rgds, Varjag

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Post by Simon Gunson » 20 Oct 2006, 13:41

Well I haven't been here for a while, so I had a look back to see what I've missed. Glad it helped you.

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Post by TISO » 22 Oct 2006, 00:00

I belive that this groupe was known as Komando Rowehl. Varyag you forgot to mention that they also used Do-17's (M, P and probably Z versions)
Regarding Anglo-French plans. The necessary recce flights were done. Later French set of plans ( together with aerial reccon photographies made by Siddney Cotton) was discovered by germans in French general staff archive they captured, and of course promptly delivered to Stalin ( source about plans: Luftkrieg 39-45 by J. Piekalkiewicz).

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Post by Simon Gunson » 22 Oct 2006, 00:46

I have heard it termed Kommando Rowehl before, but I have also read that it grew in size to four steffeln during the war doubtless to cover more than one theatre.

This prompts me to ask a question now. When Syria fell into Vichy control did Kommando Rowhel then operate over Egypt from Syria because I have read vague references of that aswell. I have also read that Subhas Chandra Bose was picked up by Brandenburgers parachuted into Afghanistan and was then flownout of Afghanistan. Was this done by Rowhel's unit or KG200 ?

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Post by HistorianSr » 22 Oct 2006, 01:12

You should get a copy of KG 200 by Geoffrey Thomas and Barry Ketley, published by Hikoki. It covers Kommando Rowehl and other Abwher, and Kommando operations.

Is the book by Franz Kurowski about the Brandenburg Division the best available? Anything in German worth getting?



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Post by Simon Gunson » 22 Oct 2006, 01:29

Thanks for that... I didn't realise there was anything worthwhile published on KG200. There is a book about KG200 by Peter Stahl but David Irving's website exposes Stahl as a fake. Irving claims Stahl is a document forger and that Stahl is not his real name either.

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Post by uhu » 22 Oct 2006, 05:32

P.W. Stahl wrote two books, KG200 The True Story, and The Diving Eagle. If he's a fake he's a good one. How can one explain the photo, for example, of himself and his crew in front of his Ju-88 in the Autumn of 1940? Most fakes don't and can't name names and places, Stahl does, over and over. Or, are you saying his service with KG 200 was fake?

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Post by Simon Gunson » 22 Oct 2006, 08:54

I am reciting what Irving claims, that Stahl is not the individual he claims. If that is incorrect then I am all ears to hear the counter story. I make no judgement because i've not met the man. If there's some logical explanation to counter David Irving's claims then please educate me.

Is the person in the photo the same person who wrote the book ?

Actually it makes it a lot more interesting for me because if everything in stahl's book is true then that means at least three Ju-290 and possibly four reached Barcelona at the end of the war. One broke a tailwheel landing on or about 6 April 1945 and was abandoned there. another one flew from Prague. Hitler's aircraft from Finsterwalde about 23 April 1945 and then unless I am getting confused, Stahl claims a fourth from Linz in Austria ?

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 22 Oct 2006, 11:52

I would rather believe Stahl than a pseudo-historian like Irving :wink:

And for Kurowski exitst exists a place where you can drop the litter ...

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Post by Arvo L. V. » 23 Oct 2006, 00:58

Esteemed Varjag;

Re your query on the Luftwaffe's "Kommando Rowehl", please allow me to offer the following for your consideration.

1933:

"Kommando Rowehl" had its beginnings in 1933/1934, when officially, the Luftwaffe did not yet exist. To supply the German military intelligence organs with information re its neighbors (and future enemies), the German Abwehr turned to a former World War One aviator - Theodor Rowehl - for assistance. During the First World War, Rowehl was an observer/aerial photographer. After the First World War, Rowehl worked for an aerial photography company called Hansa-Luftbild, GmbH. Flugkapitän Rowehl was thus able to fly over many areas of Europe and aerially map many strategic areas. As a civilian pilot, he was allowed to fly over many areas outside of Germany that were technically off-limits to most everyone. His expertise in both aerial photography and clandestine overflights of important objects of interest was exactly what the new Luftwaffe was looking for.

1934:

In 1934, the Luftwaffe established its first specialized reconnaissance squadron, the "Staffel zur besonderen Verwendung des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe". This small squadron flew primarily civilian airliners, such as Heinkel He 111's, as their cover for action. In many instances, the pilot would fly over a special industrial area or other object of interest to the German military and photograph the site. The flight plan however, overtly stated that this "route" was a "test flight" to see if it was commercially viable. This was a convenient cover story that worked quite well for the Germans.

1935:

On 01 March 1935, Rowehl was promoted to the rank of Hauptmann in the Luftwaffe. At about the same time, the official announcement regarding the existence of the Luftwaffe was announced to the world. Rowehl was then ordered to esbablish a clandestine aerial reconnaissance unit to supplement the activities of "Hansa-Luftbild, GmbH". He was also ordered to help organize the regular aerial reconnaissance capabilities of the new Luftwaffe. For his clandestine reconnaissance operations, he was permitted to hand-pick his crews from the "Deutsche Lufthansa" airline.

1936:

By 1936, a number of specially modified "reconnaissance" Heinkel He 111's were turned over to Rowehl and his hand-picked crews. They were marked as regular Lufthansa airplanes, civilian registered - but they secretly worked for Rowehl and the Luftwaffe, completing aerial reconnaissance operations as directed. The first three He 111's airplanes were:

He 111/V4 - D-AHAO "Dresden", W/N 1968;
He 111/C-03, D-AXAV, "Köln", W/N 1830; and,
He 111/C-03, D-ALIX, "Rostock", W/N 715,

These airplanes were equipped with cameras and extra fuel tanks - all very well disguised. Of interest to note is that D-ALIZ crashed in the Soviet Union, while on a "civilian" flight to the Crimean area and the Caucasus region. The Soviets were well aware of what the Germans were doing, but replied with only small diplomatic protests. They also knew of the high-altitude overflights, but the lacked any airplanes that could intercept the Germans at those heights.

On 20 April 1936, Rowehl was promoted to Major.

1937:

From the aerial reconnaissance experiences gained in Spain, the Luftwaffe recommended the establishment of the following aerial reconnaissance capabilities:

10 Short-range reconnaissance Gruppen (primarily to support tactical Wehrmacht operations)
10 Long-range reconnaissance Staffeln (primarily to support strategic Wehrmacht operations)
13 Ancillary reconnaisance units subordinated directly to the Luftwaffe's high command

1938:

Rowehl continued to train his personnel, obtained additional resources, upgraded equipment, and refined his clandestine aerial reconnaissance operations. In November of 1938, Rowehl was promoted to Oberstleutnant.

1939:

In 1939, the "Staffel zur besonderen Verwendung des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe was re-designated as the "Aufklärungsgruppe des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe"; with Göring at its head. Rowehl commanded the day-to-day activities of the Gruppe. It need be noted that this unit is also identified as "Aufklärungsgruppe Rowehl" and/or "Kommando Rowehl" in many contemporary sources. This Berlin-Staaken based Aufklärungsgruppe des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe (Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L.) (Kennzeichen T5+) contained:

Stab/Aufkl. St. (F)/ Ob. d. L.
1./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
2./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.

Of importance to note is that the duties of Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L. fell outside of the "normal" reconnaissance activities of other Luftwaffe reconnaissance units. Rowehl's unit performed the more politically dangerous, super clandestine, long-range strategic reconaissance operations for the German military.

During the summer of 1939, "Hansa-Luftbild, GmbH" was directly integrated into the German Luftwaffe. In addition, two specially modified Focke Wulf FW 200 "Condor" airliners were now placed at the disposal of Rowehl; a short while later, this was "upped" to three FW 200's:

FW 200/V10, D-ASHH, "Hessen", W/N 0001 (armed with 5 MG's);
FW 200/V2, D-AETA, "Westfalen", W/N 2484 (unarmed); and,
FW 200/A-03, D-AMCH, "Nordmark", W/N 2895 (unarmed).

These aircraft were regular Lufthansa commercial airliners now pressed into military service. Their assignments with Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L. were to undertake reconnaissance missions into the (eastern) Baltic Sea regions as well as over Soviet territory. Their first operational assignment however, was directed against the United Kingdom.

1940:

In January/February of 1940, Aufkl. Gr. (F)/ Ob. d. L. was expanded by one Staffel (Rowehl commanding):

Stab/Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
1./Aufkl. St. (F)/ Ob. d. L. (May 1940 - 3xDo 215B's; 2xBf 110D's; 7xHe 111's; several FW 200's)
2./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. (May 1940 - 10xDo 215B's; several Ju 86P's)
3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. (May 1940 - 11xDo 215B's; several Ju 88's)

As soon as it was cretaed, 3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. was assigned a number of newly available Dornier Do 215/B-0 and B-1 reconnaissance aircraft. In April of 1940, 3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. was based out of Stavanger, Norway. In April of 1940, 2./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. was based at Fritzlar.

During the summer of 1940, the first available Junkers Ju 86P model aircraft were delivered to Rowehl. Their first reconnaissance missions were against British airfields and industrial centers. The British knew the Germans were flying overhead, but at this time, the RAF lacked (interceptor fighter) aircraft that could intercept the Germans flying at 39.000 to 41.000 feet.

1941:

In January of 1941, Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L. was expanded, it now contained the following units (Rowehl commanding):

Stab/Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
1./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
2./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
4./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. (also identified as the Versuchsstelle für Höhenflüge - 1./VhF; initially based at Berlin-Rangsdorf) (April 1941 - 5xJu 86P's)

In the early spring of 1941, Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L. was asked to complete a number of aerial reconnaissance missions over the Habbaniyah (near Baghdad) and the Kirkuk areas of Iraq. They were to support the pro-Axis factions fighting the British in Iraq. A Heinkel He 111 was allocated to this project by Rowehl's group.

For pre-invasion reconnaissance missions over the Soviet Union, 4./Aufkl. St. (F)/ Ob. d. L. was temporarily based in Bucharest, Romania, and Krakow, Poland. However, on 21 June 1941, it was relocated to Berlin-Rangsdorf for operations against western targets.

In support of Unternehmen Barbarossa, the:

1./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. operated from Krakow, Poland (operational targets included the Baltic States and the Leningrad area);
2./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. operated from Bucharest, Romania (operational targets included Moscow and industrial/mining areas of the USSR); and,
3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. operated from Hamina, Finland (operational targets included Murmansk and nothern regions of the USSR).

It need be noted that reconnaissance missions over the Soviet Union commenced in 1934. Only a short gap in the aerial reconnaissance efforts occurred in September of 1940, when Hitler ordered all reconnaissance flights over the Soviet Union to cease. He cancelled that order a month later. The Soviets shot at a number of the German high-altitude reconnaissance airplanes, including one flying over Liepaja in 1941, in Soviet-occupied Latvia - but Stalin told his military to keep the shooting incidents to a minimum - he did not wish to provoke Germany in any way.

1942:

The Luftwaffe disbanded 4./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. in January of 1942. Its aircraft and personnel were amalgamated with 1./Aufkl. St. (F)/ Ob. d. L. In May of 1942, numerous Junkers Ju 86P long-range reconnaissance aircraft of 1./Aufkl. Gr. Ob. d. L. were transferred to Kastelli, Crete, Greece, where they were temporarily assigned to 2.(F)/Aufkl. Gr. 123 (Kennzeichen 4U+). From this Luftwaffe base, Junkers Ju 86/P2 models were employed for aerial reconnaissance missions over Egypt. On 24 August 1942, a specially modified Supermarine Spitfire V intercepted a Junkers Ju 86/P2 flying at about 42.000 feet (12.600 meters), north of Cairo, Egypt, and shot down the unarmed German reconnaissance aircraft. The Luftwaffe quickly added defensive armaments to the remaining Ju 86's, but this did not prevent the loss of two more Ju 86P's being shot down by the RAF over the skies of Egypt a short while later.

1943:

A major reorganization took place with Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L. As the fortunes of war turned against the Germans, the original mission or aerial reconnaissance of strategic targets became less and less relavant for Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. Rowehl was still the commanding officer of the Gruppe.

Stab/Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L.
1./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. (focused primarily on high-altitude aircraft and high-altitude reconnaissance operations)
2./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. (focused on intelligence and counter-intelligence operations, Abwehr requirements, special operations, etc.)
3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L.
4./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. (Squadron was ressurrected)

On 01 March 1943, the 4./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. was redesignated as the 1./Versuchsverband/Ob. d. L. This unit concentrated its activities on new aircraft types as well as advanced aircraft construction and weapons systems issues. A short while later, 2./Versuchsverband/Ob. d. L. was established at Berlin-Rangsdorf; a unit that was commanded by Edmund Gartenfeld (hence, this unjit was also known as "Gruppe Gartenfeld") . It was used for clandestine (agent insertion) flights into the Soviet Union; as far as the Ural areas, in a few cases.

1944:

On 19 February 1944, the Luftwaffe disbanded the Versuchsverband/Ob. d. L. A new, "re-designed" Versuchsverband/Ob. d. L. was to take its place:

Versuchsverband des Oberbefehlshabers der Luftwaffe (Rowehl commanding) (Kennzeichen T9+):

Stab/Ob. d. L. (retained from the Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L.)
1./Versuchsverband Staffel (photographic reconnaissance, Horst Götz commanding)
2./Versuchsverband Staffel (special use of enemy aircraft, Theodor Rosarius commanding; transferred to KG 200 as 1./KG 200; then this unit was also know as "Zirkus Rosarius")
3./Versuchsverband Staffel (training and evaluation; Heinrich Schoene commanding)

During the summer of 1944, the Stab/Ob. d. L. (retained from the Aufkl. Gr. (F)/Ob. d. L.) was used to form a new combat group - Kampfgruppe KG 200 (Oberst Heigl commanding).

Technical intricacies:

In terms of cameras, the Reihenbild RB 20/30 and the RB 50/30 models were the cameras most often utilized on all Luftwaffe reconnaissance aircraft. Zossen was the headquarters for all major photographic interpretation activities for the Luftwaffe; though much photo interpretation was naturally conducted in the field.

I hope that the above is of some help to you.

Thank you for the honor of your time.

Regards;

Arvo L. V.

Major Referenes:

Thomas/Ketley - KG 200; Hikoki Publications; 2003, ISBN 1-902109-33-3.

Green - Warplanes of the Third Reich; Doubleday; 1972, ISBN 0-385-05782-2

Rosch - Luftwaffe Codes; Schiffer Publications, 1995, ISBN 0-88740-796-X

Dressel/Griehl - Junkers Ju 86; Schiffer Publications; 1998; ISBN 0-7643-0391-0

Salgado - Focke Wulf FW 200 "Condor"; Quiron Ediciones; 2001; ISBN 84-87314-86-4

Smith - Dornier Do 17 & 215; Profile Publications (Nr. 164); 1967; no ISBN

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Post by Harri » 23 Oct 2006, 12:45

Arvo L. V. wrote:3./Aufkl. St. (F)/Ob. d. L. operated from Hamina, Finland (operational targets included Murmansk and nothern regions of the USSR).
This can't be true simply because there is and was no airfield at Hamina. There although is another similar one called Santahamina at Helsinki were is old airfield but it was too small and not used by any bigger planes during the war. I have neither any information that 3. Staffel would have operated from Finland. The place from where a German reconnaissance Kommando operated was Luonetjärvi airbase in Central Finland.

I think Staffeln should be marked either "n.Aufkl.St.(F)/Ob.d.L." or "n./Aufkl.Gr.(F) Ob.d.L.".

Here is some information (from my Internet site) based on Finnish sources:
http://geocities.com/finnmilpge/fmpg_lw_lfl1.html
Kommando Luonetjärvi

Germans received their permission to use Finnish airfields Utti, Luonetjärvi and Malmi (in Helsinki) already a few days before The Operation Barbarossa officially began on 22.6.1941. Already in the spring 1941 secret high altitude photography reconnaissance missions had been carried out over Soviet Union by Fernaufklärungsgruppe Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe (Aufkl.Gr.(F) Ob.d.L) or more likely its Versuchstelle Höhenflüge using Junkers Ju 86P and Dornier Do 215A long-range high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft. These planes flew over Finland several times without any permission from Finnish authorities. On the other hand Soviet planes didn't respect Finnish territory either. Alone Soviet MBR-2 flying boats crossed Finnish border at least 59 times during the first half of the year 1941.

On 20.6.1941 two German Dornier Do 215B long-range reconnaissance aircraft and one Heinkel He 111 of Kommando Luonetjärvi i.e. Kette 1.Staffel / Fernaufklärungsgruppe Oberbefehlshaber der Luftwaffe (Ke.1./Aufkl.Gr.(F) Ob.d.L) (code T5+) (Hauptmann Bolle) flew to Luonetjärvi airbase in Central Finland. Between 18. - 20.6. three Heinkel He 111P transport planes delivered a German radio station to the base and on 21.6.1941 German personnel arrived in Luonetjärvi. Kette operated from Luonetjärvi on 20.6. and between 22.6. - 20.8.1941 photographing the regions of Leningrad - Murmansk railway and Stalin's Canal in East Karelia. Kommando Luonetjärvi left Finland as late as on 13.9.1941.

Another airfields commonly used by the long-range reconnaissance planes of Aufkl.Gr.(F) Ob.d.L and long-range reconnaissance units of Luftflotte 1 were Malmi (Helsinki) and Utti. During 21.6. - 28.8.1941 Heinkel He 111 recon plane flew a total of 16 missions from Malmi and between 12. - 18.11.1941 Dornier Do 215B carried out 6 missions.

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Post by varjag » 23 Oct 2006, 13:13

Thanks guys! I popped the inital question to the day, 3 years ago - and it took almost that time - to fire! Keep it coming - I'm lapping it up.....Varjag

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