The official AHF Luftwaffe quiz thread
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Hello Rob,
You pose an interesting possibility. But unless we can determine that he was disembarked on English rather than Scottish soil (and this operation was conducted far up in the North Sea) I'll have to stick with the information I have. Look again at the clues. 50% of the answer is in those two pictures. Another 25% could be estimated from the first. Apparently there are no cattle ranchers here on the Forum .
You pose an interesting possibility. But unless we can determine that he was disembarked on English rather than Scottish soil (and this operation was conducted far up in the North Sea) I'll have to stick with the information I have. Look again at the clues. 50% of the answer is in those two pictures. Another 25% could be estimated from the first. Apparently there are no cattle ranchers here on the Forum .
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Well, apparently the aircraft in question is a Do 17 (a "flying pencil") but I don't understand what the picture of the cow alludes to. (Unfortunately the graduate program in obscure English geography was full when I applied for it. )
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Yes, the Do 17 is correct but the cow holds the key. Not the fact that it is a cow but the name of its breed, which is famous for its milk and other dairy products.
Another clue lies in the chronology of events just prior to the BoB.
Another clue lies in the chronology of events just prior to the BoB.
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Jersey? As in the Channel island? I thought of Jersey and Guernsey, but couldn't find anything and anyway they're not part of England.
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Hi Rob,
OK, I guess although the Bailiwick of Guernsey is a Possession of the Crown, technically I suppose it's not "English soil". The answer I was seeking was Oberfeldwebel Roman Gastager who landed his Do 17F on the Island of Guernsey on 30 June 1940 and by his own account became the first German soldier to step on "English soil" in the war.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 2&start=30
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OK, I guess although the Bailiwick of Guernsey is a Possession of the Crown, technically I suppose it's not "English soil". The answer I was seeking was Oberfeldwebel Roman Gastager who landed his Do 17F on the Island of Guernsey on 30 June 1940 and by his own account became the first German soldier to step on "English soil" in the war.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 2&start=30
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hi, Max,
I have to accept that, but I disagree.
In that case, your question should have been: The first ... without becoming an POW (!)
Taking your question word for word as it was, Fw Wilms was the first.
Rob, go on.
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I have to accept that, but I disagree.
In that case, your question should have been: The first ... without becoming an POW (!)
Taking your question word for word as it was, Fw Wilms was the first.
Rob, go on.
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Max,
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation ... s#Invasion, "a reconnaissance pilot, Hauptmann Liebe-Pieteritz, made a test landing at Guernsey's deserted airfield on 30 June to determine the level of defence. He reported his brief landing to Luftflotte 3 who came to the decision that the Islands were not defended. A platoon of Luftwaffe soldiers were flown that evening to Guernsey by Junkers transport planes." Was Gastager a member of Liebe-Pieteritz's crew? If not, then whose was the first plane to land on Guernsey on 30 June?
In the meantime, here's the next question: Why was a Luftwaffe general aboard a U-Boat which surrendered at the end of the war?
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation ... s#Invasion, "a reconnaissance pilot, Hauptmann Liebe-Pieteritz, made a test landing at Guernsey's deserted airfield on 30 June to determine the level of defence. He reported his brief landing to Luftflotte 3 who came to the decision that the Islands were not defended. A platoon of Luftwaffe soldiers were flown that evening to Guernsey by Junkers transport planes." Was Gastager a member of Liebe-Pieteritz's crew? If not, then whose was the first plane to land on Guernsey on 30 June?
In the meantime, here's the next question: Why was a Luftwaffe general aboard a U-Boat which surrendered at the end of the war?
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Hello Rob and pb,
I'm sorry to have sown such confusion. Obviously Gastager's personal account on which I relied did not consider POW's and apparently Guernsey was considered "English soil" at least by the Luftwaffe at the time. But as we know memoirs can sometimes be embellished or "misremembered".
I knew about Liebe-Pieteritz's test landing but didn't read anything about him actually disembarking his aircraft before taking off again and assumed that Gastager came in between him and the Ju 52s. Maybe we will never know for sure.
Sorry pb if your answer was technically correct. I owe you one.
I'm sorry to have sown such confusion. Obviously Gastager's personal account on which I relied did not consider POW's and apparently Guernsey was considered "English soil" at least by the Luftwaffe at the time. But as we know memoirs can sometimes be embellished or "misremembered".
I knew about Liebe-Pieteritz's test landing but didn't read anything about him actually disembarking his aircraft before taking off again and assumed that Gastager came in between him and the Ju 52s. Maybe we will never know for sure.
Sorry pb if your answer was technically correct. I owe you one.
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Hi Rob,Rob Stuart wrote: In the meantime, here's the next question: Why was a Luftwaffe general aboard a U-Boat which surrendered at the end of the war?
General Ulrich Kessler was embarked on the U-234 enroute to Japan when it surrendered to the Allies. He was accompanying some advanced German weapons and drawings including a disassembeled Me 262, Hs 293, uranium, and more while on his way to his new assignment as senior Military Liaison Officer in Tokyo.
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Correct!Maxschnauzer wrote:Hi Rob,Rob Stuart wrote: In the meantime, here's the next question: Why was a Luftwaffe general aboard a U-Boat which surrendered at the end of the war?
General Ulrich Kessler was embarked on the U-234 enroute to Japan when it surrendered to the Allies. He was accompanying some advanced German weapons and drawings including a disassembeled Me 262, Hs 293, uranium, and more while on his way to his new assignment as senior Military Liaison Officer in Tokyo.
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Thanks Rob,
Polar Bear please take the new question.
Polar Bear please take the new question.
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hi, and thanks for the fairness, Max.
Being a navy man, a simple one: what was the Luftwaffe's last success against Allied shipping (air-dropped mines don't count) ?
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Being a navy man, a simple one: what was the Luftwaffe's last success against Allied shipping (air-dropped mines don't count) ?
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The Henry Bacon, returning Convoy RA 64, sunk by torpedos from Ju 88's of III./KG 26, 23 Feb 1945?
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hi, Max,
Exactly ! (AFAIK, from 8./KG 26)
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Exactly ! (AFAIK, from 8./KG 26)
Back to you,
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Thank you pb,
Now another question involving the last days of the Reich. Name the Geschwader which evacuated over 300 wounded from the Kurland Kessel on 9 May 1945.
Now another question involving the last days of the Reich. Name the Geschwader which evacuated over 300 wounded from the Kurland Kessel on 9 May 1945.
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