General in Minsk 1941

[GregSingh]

One more of Eckart von Tschammer und Osten.
Both taken in Grafenwöhr. Photos from http://www.europeanfilmgateway.eu/

Id - Mauritz von Wiktorin

[Frech]

Greg: last pic appears to be Mauriz von Wiktorin. Look he has Ritterkreuz but not Wiederholungsspange for EK2 which would just fit for a former Austrian General who had no EK1 1914.

Regards

Christian

[Frech]

Dieter: Schulenburg would be ruled out because of the ribbon bar. The General in question has three WW1 decorations and two Dienstauszeichnungen, Schulenburg has five on his full medal bar (without Dienstauszeichnungen. And he has PlM!

Regards

Christian

[Jeremy Dixon]

Eckart von Tschammer und Osten was not awarded the Knight's Cross

[Dieter Zinke]

Dieter: Schulenburg ...... has PlM!

Regards

Christian

No Christian,
Friedrich Bernhard Karl Gustav Ulrich Erich Graf von der Schulenburg
* 21.11.1865 Bobitz/Mecklenburg
† 19.05.1939 St. Blasien/Schwarzwald
01.04.1938 Charakter als General der Kavallerie
20.04.1939 SS-Obergruppenführer
has the PlM

Winfred von der Schulenburg, Gen. Lt.
(01.06.1882 - 01.05.1945, Freitod)
GM: 01.12.1933, GL: 01.01.1942 z. V.
Kdr. 6. (Preußisches) Reiter-Regiment: 01.01.1931-31.03.1934,
Abschied: 31.03.1934
General zbV für das Kriegsgefangenenwesen: 26.08.1939-31.03.1943
I: PE1 HH EH3ax CK ÖM3K TH BO4

Dieter Z.

[Frech]

Dieter:
yes you are right I did not recognize the Johanniter, but the rest (medal bar) makes difference enough.

Löffle mich!

Christian

[Max Williams]

I don't think the mystery General looks anything like the suggestions so far.
Max.

[Rossano]

Hello
So is the general in both Greg's photos really v. Wiktorin ? It has sense as he was Befh. im WK.XIII (where Grafenwöhr is). In both photo he wears the Ritterkreuz, so he can' t be v.Tschammer u. Osten. Nobody has v. Tschammer' s photos ? Finally who knows who is the general behind v.Wiktorin (whilst v.Wiktorin is shaking hands with Mussolini) ?
Thanks, Rossano

[Vienna]

Hello!
in edition .......... in this time Eckart von Tschammer und Osten was not only Cdr. of (Ersatz-)Sicherungsbrigade 202, but also Feldkommandant von Minsk!

Regards
Vienna

[histan]

This is the picture of von Tschammer und Osten from his "Generalskartei"

von Tschammer und Osten.jpg (57.55 KiB) Viewed 712 times

Regards

John

[Rossano]

Hello!
in edition .......... in this time Eckart von Tschammer und Osten was not only Cdr. of (Ersatz-)Sicherungsbrigade 202, but also Feldkommandant von Minsk!

Regards
Vienna

Hello,
from which source ? The Feldkdt. v. Minsk had the no. 812 but v.Tschammer is not listed there as Kdt.
Was he maybe Ortskdt. (or Stadtkdt.) v. Minsk, or what ?
Rossano

[Vienna]

Hi Rossano!

Please look at -"Konventioneller Krieg oder NS..........." and "Sowjetunion mit annektierten GebietenI...."
https://books.google.at/books?id=IcTpBQ ... sk&f=false
https://books.google.at/books?id=lgWTBg ... sk&f=false

Vienna

[Heimatschuss]

Hello,

for some time there were two Feldkommandanturen in Minsk at the same time FK 184 (called Minsk-Stadt) and FK 812 (called Minsk-Land).
Source: http://tinyurl.com/pp4nk8d

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Thank You Vienna and Torsten. Rossano

[Max Williams]

Gentlemen,
So where does this leave us with identifying the General in post #1? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the mystery General bears no resemblance whatsoever to any of those suggested!
Regards,
Max.