Who was next to become leader if Hitler died?

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Who was next to become leader if Hitler died?

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Post by Robert Jackson » 24 May 2006, 06:10

I know Hitler had many leaders - Goering, Himmler, Hess and Goebbels.

So who would become leader if Hitler died (like in the suitcase bomb)

GOERING - Hitler's favourite

HIMMLER - He led the SS and everyone was scared of them so he had a good chance too

HESS - Deputy Fuhrer (so surely he would have been favourite)

GOEBBELS - I don't think he would have made a good leader so not in the running I think.

That leaves 3 men though. You see why I am confused? :?

I think Hitler promised them all they would be leader if he died but that's not possible is it.

So who do you think would be the real leader?

Hess was Hitler's No2 and Depury Fuhrer but he was mad so noone would want him, but why then did Hitler make him deputy instead of Goering or Himmler (who were more important)

Can anyone help please?

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Post by Nekro » 24 May 2006, 06:41

are you talkin about the bomb in 1939 or about the one in 1944?
i think you mean stauffenberg in 44.

well hess got arrested in the uk in 41 meanin he wouldnt become leader


i think himmler would have made it. he had the whole ss in his back besides he was feared by most of the people.


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Post by Dieter Zinke » 24 May 2006, 09:47

Dear Robert,

the members of the forum will ever help if needed, but a little bit basic knowledge of the topic is absolutely unalterable before posting your questions.
I fear your evident knowledge gaps should induce a long craming of standard works of well-known authors and experts.
Please excuse my doing so, but "Per aspera ad astra" (sudorific efforts are not to avoid).

Sincerely
D. Zinke (still learning since about more then fifty years) :)

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Post by Robert Jackson » 24 May 2006, 18:51

Sorry I will try to be more clear:

GOERING - Hitler wanted him to be the leader of Germany if he died. I heard this on the History Channel that Hitler had promised him the job.

HESS - Hitler's No.2 and Deputy Fuhrer (so obviously he must be a strong choice too otherwise why would he have this title)

HIMMLER - Very powerful man and controlled all the police, ss and gestapo in Germany. Maybe if Hitler died he would take charge anyway and shoot Goering (I don't think they liked each other)

You can't have 3 leaders. If Hitler died there would have been a big problem as to who is the new leader. No parliament in Germany to vote on this so I think there could have been civil war between Goering and Himmler.

Maybe also the army would try to seize power as Germany was in a terrible state.

You see what I mean now Dieter. :D

Robert

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Post by Walter Model » 24 May 2006, 19:35

Dönitz became Reichspräsident after Hitler's death. And Goebbels was Reichskanzler.

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Post by Robert Jackson » 24 May 2006, 19:41

Thanks Walter, I read this last night. He was Commander of the navy.

But he was only leader in 1945 because there was noone else.

GOERING - Hitler fell out with him at the end of the war

HIMMLER - Hitler fell out with him at the end of the war

ROMMEL - Dead

HESS - Under arrest in England


Maybe if Hitler died in 1939 or even in 1944, things would be different I think.

Robert

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Post by maxxx » 24 May 2006, 19:48

Dear Robert,

Rommel may be one of the best known Generals in the UK, but he never was close to any political "leader" function during the TR. Göring WAS the designated successor until the very few last days of the reich. If he could have succeeded without some war between other paladins is questionable.

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Post by Robert Jackson » 24 May 2006, 20:55

I think there would have been a battle for power between Goering and Himmler if Hitler had died (I think both men hated each other)

Himmler would have won. He had all the SS backing him up (2 or 3 million soldiers)

2 different situations though -

1939 - Hitler dies.

Goering would become leader. Popular with the army and the people.
Himmler is not important enough yet.

1944 - Hitler dies.

Himmler would have become leader with SS support.
Goering had lost the plot by this time. On History Channel it said he was into drugs and only cared about enjoying himself with all the money and diamonds he had stolen from jews.

It just goes to show how things can change in a few years. From hero to zero.

But another situation: :idea:

The army hated Hitler by 1944. Thats why they tried to kill him with the suitcase bomb. So, maybe if Hitler died in the attack the army would take over Germany and maybe appoint Rommel as leader (popular hero)

Then there would have been civil war for sure between the SS and the army.

I think I have made some good points here. :D

Robert

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Post by Walter Model » 24 May 2006, 21:00

I think this topic could be locked too.

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Post by Michael Miller » 24 May 2006, 21:17

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