The official AHF Axis Biographical Research quiz thread

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Post by Simon Orchard » 07 Jun 2008, 18:54

Major, later Oberst Paul Glein, born 9.6.1891 died at Denjepropetrowsk on the 2.9.1941

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Post by Bernd R » 07 Jun 2008, 20:32

Correct !

Reference Work :
Ottmer, Hans-Martin, Weserübung: der deutsche Angriff auf Dänemark und Norwegen im April 1940, München, Oldenburg 1994

Over to you, Simon - back to the North again ? :)

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Post by Simon Orchard » 08 Jun 2008, 14:11

As it's summer let's go on holiday to a favourite destination for many Europeans.

We see here a photo from two arms of the Wehrmacht but i want the name of an officer from the third, the Kriegsmarine. This officer commanded a unit or formation that landed two of these panzers here on the 27th May 1941.
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Post by Simon Orchard » 11 Jun 2008, 20:02

This Kriegsmarine officer was later decorated with both the DKiG and RK.

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 11 Jun 2008, 23:17

Oberleutnant zur See der Reserve Albert Oesterlin :D
he was then in the Küstenschutzflottille Attika, debarkation to Crete
KIA 23.01.1944, Piräus
RK 09.06.1944 posthumously
Korvettenkapitän posthumously (RDA 01.01.1944)

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Post by Simon Orchard » 12 Jun 2008, 08:29

Correct! Over to you Dieter

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 12 Jun 2008, 12:16

The next unknown person, a nobleman and Generalmajor, coming from Italy was moved with his division to the area near Prag in March 1945.
Not yet ready for action they had to dive in the raging battle, as a result the units were steamrollered and a collective punishment was imposed by the notorious Ferdinand Schörner !
The "Gendarm von Kurland" claimed the executation of the general, but the OKH attenuated the adjudgement to degradation to "Schütze" and release for combat mission on licence.

Other sources state other reasons for the degradation:
!.) He was caputured by the Soviets and worked for their propaganda, so degradation in absentia by the FHQu.
2.) He refused obedience to execute his men who fled from Soviet tanks
3.) Disobedience to burn a Polish village.

However described, he was captured by the Soviets and delivered to the Polish "Politruks" (02.05.1945) now reinstalled again as a german general (by the Polish State Council) !
After political training courses and with willingness to cooperate he was already released on 09.06.1949 to his home.
In the aftermath he was a passionate supporter of a Polish-German understanding and reconciliation, then still regarded with heavy distrust by the defence departments of the newly established Federal Republic under supervision by the Western Allied Forces.

He had the German Cross in Gold. You know his name ??


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Post by pavel michalek » 12 Jun 2008, 12:31

Rudolf Toussaint?

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 12 Jun 2008, 14:27

Sorry, but Toussaint was released from the CSSR not before 1961 :wink:
He is not a nobleman, no degradation, no German Cross and not moved from Italy not until March 1945 !!!!

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 15 Jun 2008, 09:21

Our unknown person was in service with Infanterie-Regiment 9, Potsdam, 1920 - 1935.
...and here is a poor paper-copy of his pic from "Sammlung Krug" /BArch/MilArch Freiburg


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Post by Simon Orchard » 16 Jun 2008, 20:55

Friedrich von Schellwitz??

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Post by histan » 16 Jun 2008, 23:08

Hanns von Rohr ?

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 16 Jun 2008, 23:15

Simon Orchard wrote:Friedrich von Schellwitz??
Sorry, no !
Von Schellwitz was in March/April 1945 with his 305. ID not in Czechoslovakia but in Upper Italy near Bologna and Lake Garda :idea:
He was not awarded with the German Cross !


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Post by Simon Orchard » 16 Jun 2008, 23:20

Friedrich von Schellwitz is listed in Scheibert's book on DKiG holders as receiving the award as Kdr. of IR 68 on the 20.9.1942
Thank you, my mistake :(
but anyway, we are searching another man

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Post by Dieter Zinke » 18 Jun 2008, 09:10

Just in time for the holdays I want to unravel the mystery:

I was searching for Generalmajor Hanns von Rohr, Kommandeur 715. ID.
and "histan" got it !!
Gratulation and my apologies for my mistake to ignore his right answer :(
Maybe it was the pleasant anticipation for holidays :wink:
Hanns von Rohr:
Von Italien mit der 715. ID in den Raum Prag gekommen, wurde die Truppe, obwohl weder einsatzbereit noch umbewaffnet, ab 22.03.1945 trotz Protest gegenüber dem LIX. AK (GLt Joachim von Tresckow) in die Schlacht geworfen. So wurde die Division am 24.03.1945 überrollt, böse Strafmaßnahmen (Ablegen aller Orden, Auszeichnungssperre) folgten, von Rohr wurde (Führeranordnung) ohne Kriegsgerichtsverfahren zum Oberst degradiert ! Welche Rolle spielte Schörner dabei ?

Quelle: Ahlfen “Der Kampf um Schlesien.“

http://wissen.spiegel.de/wissen/dokumen ... op=SPIEGEL
... am 2. Mai 1945 in sowjetische Gefangenschaft geriet und nach diversen Hungermonaten an die Polen verkungelt wurde. In der Uniform eines einfachen Schützen. Die Generalsuniform hatte ihm Generaloberst Ferdinand Schörner im März 1945 ausgezogen, weil Hanns von Rohr sich hartnäckig geweigert hatte, Soldaten seiner Kampfgruppe erschießen zu lassen, die vor sowjetischen Panzern getürmt waren. Der "blutige Ferdinand" forderte Erschießung des aufsässigen Generals. OKH milderte das Todesurteil zu Degradierung und Bewährungseinsatz ....
http://wissen.spiegel.de/wissen/dokumen ... op=SPIEGEL
Als Hans von Rohr in den letzten Kriegsmonaten in Gefangenschaft geriet und für sowjetische Propaganda eingefangen wurde, degradierte ihn das Führerhauptquartier in absentia. Die volkspolnischen Politruks, denen er ausgeliefert wurde, ließen ihm den Generaltitel und winkten mit Freilassungsmöglichkeit bei entsprechender Schulungsbereitschaft.
http://www.polen-news.de/puw/puw70-23.html
Ähnliches gilt für die Darstellung des Schicksals des ehemaligen Wehrmachtsgenerals Hans von Rohr, der wegen Befehlsverweigerung, ein polnisches Dorf niederzubrennen, von dem berüchtigten Feldmarschall Schörner degradiert wurde und vom Polnischen Staatsrat während seiner Gefangenschaft wieder in seinen alten Rang eingesetzt wurde. Von Rohr wird es angekreidet, dass er sich nach seiner Heimkehr als "ein leidenschaftlicher Anhänger der polnisch-deutschen Verständigung“ einsetzte. (Hans von Rohr war bekanntlich Mitbegründer und erster Vorsitzender der Hellmut-von-Gerlach- Gesellschaft in der Bundesrepublik, dem Vorläufer unserer Deutsch-Polnischen Gesellschaft e.V.)


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