Friedrich Dollmann and his AOK 7 (25.10.1939 - 28.06.1944)
Dieter
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Dieter Zinke
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Our General (Heer) was a fanatical Jew-baiter.
Only his division ( ID ) killed 19.000 victims (without having expressly the order by a Higher Command),
mostly Jews, also in ghettos, between 01.10.1941 until the end of December 1941
in the area Berück Mitte in the Eastern Front.
Occasionally an infamous Reserve-Polizei-Bataillon was also under his control.
He was never accused, never condemned - neither by allied nor by german institutions, no - he got by !!
His (long and correct) name is asked
Dieter
Only his division ( ID ) killed 19.000 victims (without having expressly the order by a Higher Command),
mostly Jews, also in ghettos, between 01.10.1941 until the end of December 1941
in the area Berück Mitte in the Eastern Front.
Occasionally an infamous Reserve-Polizei-Bataillon was also under his control.
He was never accused, never condemned - neither by allied nor by german institutions, no - he got by !!
His (long and correct) name is asked
Dieter
Generalleutnant z.V. Wolfgang Edler Herr und Freiherr von Plotho
Kommandeur 285. Sicherungs-Division ; missing since 7/1946 (according ABR)
The police btl must be then Reserve-Polizei-Bataillon 619.
Must admit, it was a coincidence to find the (hopefully correct
) answer, I'm just
compiling the KC lists of the Sicherungs-Divisionen.
Came across the name, which is in hard contrast to the story you told !!
Didn't know that Res-Pol.Btl 619. There is a lot written about Bataillon 101 / Poland.
luchs
Kommandeur 285. Sicherungs-Division ; missing since 7/1946 (according ABR)
The police btl must be then Reserve-Polizei-Bataillon 619.
Must admit, it was a coincidence to find the (hopefully correct
) answer, I'm justcompiling the KC lists of the Sicherungs-Divisionen.
Came across the name, which is in hard contrast to the story you told !!
Didn't know that Res-Pol.Btl 619. There is a lot written about Bataillon 101 / Poland.
luchs
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Dieter Zinke
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autsch! that was after the old tanker rule "who is shooting first, wins" , mostly 
now, following the rule "information not shared, is lost" :
Generalmajor Gustav [Maria Benno] Freiherr von Mauchenheim, genannt Bechtolsheim
(1889-1969) , Kommandeur 707. Infanterie-Division
for further info :
http://www.gazette.de/Archiv/Gazette-Juli2003/Lieb.html
http://www.boelling.de/stolin/infos/info_krieg.htm
regards, luchs
now, following the rule "information not shared, is lost" :
Generalmajor Gustav [Maria Benno] Freiherr von Mauchenheim, genannt Bechtolsheim
(1889-1969) , Kommandeur 707. Infanterie-Division
for further info :
http://www.gazette.de/Archiv/Gazette-Juli2003/Lieb.html
http://www.boelling.de/stolin/infos/info_krieg.htm
quotation from the above site ("stolin")Die 707. Infanteriedivision hatte den Auftrag, im Generalkommissariat Weißruthenien alle Einwohner jüdischen Glaubens aus den Dörfern herauszuholen; ausdrücklich stellte General Gustav Freiherr von Bechtolsheim, der für zahlreiche Massaker verantwortlich war, seinen Untergebenen frei, die Menschen "zu erledigen oder in Ghettos an einzelnen größeren Orten" zusammenzubringen
regards, luchs
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Dieter Zinke
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BINGO !
it was the 707. Infanteriedivision (bodenst.) and the Reserve-Polizei-Bataillon 11
it was the 707. Infanteriedivision (bodenst.) and the Reserve-Polizei-Bataillon 11
Seine Division meldet von 01.10.1941 bis Ende Dezember 1941 19.000 Liquidierungen, überwiegend Juden! Die Division allein geht in den Monaten September / Oktober 1941 gegen die armen Landjuden in ihrem Bereich vor: Die 8. / IR 727 der 707. ID (bod.) mordet am 30.10.1941 im Ghetto Nieswicz (4.500 jüdische Opfer), am 02.11.1941 im Ghetto Lachowicze (1.000 jüdische Opfer), am 05.11.1941 in den Ghettos Jaremicze, Swierzna und Turec (1.000 jüdische Opfer) und am 09.11.1941 im Ghetto Mir (1.500 bis 1.800 jüdische Opfer). Im Verband von Polizei und SD liquidieren die 6. / IR 727 am 13./14. 11.1941 im Ghetto Slonim (9.000 jüdische Opfer) bzw die 7. / IR 727 am 08.12.1941 im Ghetto Novogrodek (3.000 jüdische Opfer)
Your turn, sportsmanBefehl vom 10.10.1941: “Zigeuner sind beim Aufgreifen sofort an Ort und Stelle zu erschießen.“
Befehl vom 24.11.1941: “Wo kleinere oder größere Judengruppen auf dem Lande angetroffen werden, können sie entweder selbst erledigt oder aber in Ghettos an einzelnen größeren Orten ... zusammengebracht werden.“
part 1 :
The works „Infanterie greift an“ and „Soldat bis zum letzten Tag“ – beside other things –
have in common one thing, an aspect, not necessarily within the books.
Another work, e.g. “Vom Schiffsjungen zum Fallschirmjäger-General”, would also have
some things in common with the two, but not this one aspect, which is asked for.
part 2 :
asked is for the ->[answer part 1] , who was ->[answer part 1] in command/combat
the shortest time ever (at least Germany, WW2).
part 3 :
in the area ->[answer part 2] was captured, one morning some days before on
Zariza Railway Embankment there occured something strange with three desperate men.
What happened and for whom it was the final “action” ?
regards, luchs
The works „Infanterie greift an“ and „Soldat bis zum letzten Tag“ – beside other things –
have in common one thing, an aspect, not necessarily within the books.
Another work, e.g. “Vom Schiffsjungen zum Fallschirmjäger-General”, would also have
some things in common with the two, but not this one aspect, which is asked for.
part 2 :
asked is for the ->[answer part 1] , who was ->[answer part 1] in command/combat
the shortest time ever (at least Germany, WW2).
part 3 :
in the area ->[answer part 2] was captured, one morning some days before on
Zariza Railway Embankment there occured something strange with three desperate men.
What happened and for whom it was the final “action” ?
regards, luchs
Well, Christian, you are on the track, but draw a wrong conclusion.
Recognized correctly the authors of
"Infanterie greift an" -> Rommel and "Soldat bis zum letzten Tag" -> Kesselring.
Also correct author of third book mentioned -> Hermann-Bernhard Ramcke.
All three holders of the Brillanten zum Ritterkreuz, or let's say diamonds holders.
(Ramcke got the diamonds together with the swords the same day / Festung Brest)
As the hint was, Ramcke does not have the thing in common with the two ;
so, not asked for the diamonds
Race open,
luchs
Recognized correctly the authors of
"Infanterie greift an" -> Rommel and "Soldat bis zum letzten Tag" -> Kesselring.
Also correct author of third book mentioned -> Hermann-Bernhard Ramcke.
All three holders of the Brillanten zum Ritterkreuz, or let's say diamonds holders.
(Ramcke got the diamonds together with the swords the same day / Festung Brest)
As the hint was, Ramcke does not have the thing in common with the two ;
so, not asked for the diamonds
Race open,
luchs
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Dieter Zinke
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"hands up!" for part 1 and 2 only
answer part 1 : Generalfeldmarschall
answer part 2 : GFM Friedrich Paulus
Stalingrad is in the background, but no answer ; irritating question, isn't it
Nice episode of Tschuikow, two times Hero of the Soviet Union and defender of
Stalingrad
There indeed is some space for interpretation concerning part 3, but Tschuikow is out :
GFM Paulus was promoted GFM and captured 31.01.1943.
"some days before" would be between 25. and 30. of january 1943.
"three desperate men" are higher ranking officers..
regards, luchs
answer part 1 : Generalfeldmarschall
answer part 2 : GFM Friedrich Paulus
Stalingrad is in the background, but no answer ; irritating question, isn't it
Nice episode of Tschuikow, two times Hero of the Soviet Union and defender of
Stalingrad
There indeed is some space for interpretation concerning part 3, but Tschuikow is out :
GFM Paulus was promoted GFM and captured 31.01.1943.
"some days before" would be between 25. and 30. of january 1943.
"three desperate men" are higher ranking officers..
regards, luchs
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Dieter Zinke
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Three officers from the Staff AOK 6 (Oberst i.G. Elchlepp, Oberstleutnant i.G. von Kunowski and Oberstleutnant i.G. Niemeyer) moved to the area of the 297. ID in the morning of 25.01.1943.PzAALuchs wrote:"some days before" would be between 25. and 30. of january 1943.
"three desperate men" are higher ranking officers..
They stood off their duties by Paulus. They were captured by the Soviets.
In vain they intended to reach the german frontlines outside the Stalingrad-pocket.
Mission accomplished ?
Dieter
Dieter, to be honest, you deserve to win the quiz, bringing another nice episode from
Stalingrad.
But, not the correct answer ! And the mission is not impossible
I was aware that there happened a lot in this dramatic january of 1943, therefore I included the following important hint :
Much higher ranks , generals. Morning of 26.01.1943.
Have fun
luchs
Stalingrad.
But, not the correct answer ! And the mission is not impossible
I was aware that there happened a lot in this dramatic january of 1943, therefore I included the following important hint :
For one of the three the outcome of the desperate action was differrent.What happened and for whom it was the final “action” ?
Much higher ranks , generals. Morning of 26.01.1943.
Have fun
luchs
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Dieter Zinke
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The best things come in threes:
von Seydlitz-Kurzbach with his LI. AK lost his independence and was subordinated to Heitz (VIII. AK).
GLt. Rodenburg (76. ID) was allowed by Seydlitz to surrender himself. But Rodenburg reported to Heitz, Heitz reported to the Army-HQ and so on. Firstly the arrest of von Seydlitz was considered.....
This was the beginning of the idea of resistance against the NS-reign of terror with Soviet help (the later Bund deutscher Offiziere im Nationalkomittee Freies Deutschland).
And now:
All is well that ends well (cit. Shakespeare) ?
Dieter
von Seydlitz-Kurzbach with his LI. AK lost his independence and was subordinated to Heitz (VIII. AK).
GLt. Rodenburg (76. ID) was allowed by Seydlitz to surrender himself. But Rodenburg reported to Heitz, Heitz reported to the Army-HQ and so on. Firstly the arrest of von Seydlitz was considered.....
This was the beginning of the idea of resistance against the NS-reign of terror with Soviet help (the later Bund deutscher Offiziere im Nationalkomittee Freies Deutschland).
And now:
All is well that ends well (cit. Shakespeare) ?
Dieter