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Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby pcfl on 23 Feb 2010 23:17

His family , sons and their wives, what his rank was.. I think it was Oberstabsarzt ... any information on his work and the sanatoriums etc..
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Re: Dr. med. P. Honekamp

Postby giselher on 24 Feb 2010 10:23

sorry, but I don't understand your question. What exactly do you want to know and what is the background of your question? Is this SS & Polizei related? When I googled, I found a sanatorium Dr. med. Honekamp that existed in Rinteln. Is it this one that you you mean? But what about it?
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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby Heimatschuss on 25 Feb 2010 23:45

Hello,

Google Books search spat out various publications by a Dr. med. Paul Honekamp. Honekamp seems to have been an Oberarzt (literally: senior doctor) in the Landeskrankenhaus (psychiatric hospital) Brandenburg-Görden from the late 1920s till 1937 when he left the hospital. From my just cursory reading of the various Google snippets I got the impression that at the time he was rather young and at the beginning of his career. Strange that he never published anything after 1938.
He may be related to the psychiatric sanatorium in Rinteln (Hanover Province) that giselher already pointed to. Except for some photo postcards there seems to be nothing on the net about this sanatorium.

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby Dieter Zinke on 26 Feb 2010 00:26

Honekamp, Paul
Aus der Landesheilanstalt Görden: "Die Heilung der Geisteskrankheiten durch Sanierung des endokrin-vegetativen Systems mit natürlichen Heilstoffen"
Verlag Marhold, Halle an der Saale, 1936

http://www.kersti.de/V0030.HTM :
Oberarzt Dr. Paul Honekamp leitete Anfang der dreißiger Jahre die Psychiatrische Landesheilanstalt Görden in Brandenburg. Die meisten seiner Patienten waren Schizophrene, Manisch-Depressive oder Epileptiker. Er gab ihnen täglich frische Bierhefe. Daraufhin wurden alle (!) gesund. (Bierhefe ist sehr reich an Vitaminen, Mineralien und Spurenelementen.)


Surely then and today only risible complementary and alternative methods (unorthodox medical treatments).
Sorry, no further informations in my research library resp. my own academic and specialised reference book-collection !!

BTW: By nature the topic is raising the question is the questioner really interested in the military career of Dr. Honekamp ( I see only a little chance to get this) or is he in the end only in search of dubious and abject cures (to put it bluntly !!)

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby campus honoris on 27 Feb 2010 23:15

born: April 4th, 1900 in Borken
Died: 1972 in Blumenthal

After studying medicine in Hamburg, MD in Psychatry and Neurology, research in the treatment of mentally ill people using natural substances (Vitamin B 12, wheat beer with yeast), "Oberarzt" at the Landeskrankenhaus Brandenburg-Görden.

Publications:
Über die Störungen der Harmonie des endokrin-vegetativen Systems, ihre Ursache und Heilung durch natürliche Heilstoffe, Halle 1935
Die Heilung der Geisteskrankheiten mit natürlichen Heilstoffen, Halle 1936

He invented the drug "Eugenozym" which was produced up to 1970.
Due to his research and publications he came into conflict with the Nazi ideology and he subsequently left Görden and the civil service to open his own clinic in Rinteln.
However he was drafted at the beginning of WW2 and served in Poland, France and Russia as a doctor in the rank of "Oberstabsarzt". POW in Russia in 1944 (Caucasian Mountains), he managed to escape before being sent to Siberia and fled via Romania, Hungary, Austria back to Germany (1945).
He reopened his clinic in Rinteln which he sold in 1964 to open a smaller one in Blumenthal in order to be able to treat patients more individually.
After being severely injured in a car crash in 1970, he died in 1972 at the age of 72.
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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby pcfl on 28 Feb 2010 00:33

Did he have any relations called Lütkens , Hofer, Rech or Reck and a daughter in law called Evelyn..? Evelyn said she married his son and that he died in 1944 on the russian front..?

I believe Evelyn may have an Aufseherin background and that Dr. Honekamp as an Oberstabsarzt was fully aware of the euthanasia program and exploiting it by using his patients against their will in electric shock treatments, force feeding eugonoym against their will whilst starving them of real food.
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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby Heimatschuss on 28 Feb 2010 12:26

Hello,

a photo postcard of Honekamp's later clinic in Hellenthal-Blumenthal (Eifel Mountains) was sold in February this year on Ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.de/we74658-Blumenthal-S ... 1004r25687

Anybody interested in the matter please also look here viewtopic.php?f=77&t=163298&p=1436728#p1436728

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby Heimatschuss on 28 Feb 2010 23:42

Hello,

that Dr. Honekamp knew of the euthanasia program is quite possible (it wasn't that secret) but I would attribute that to his long time personal contacts to the state psychiatric clinic in Brandenburg-Görden. Euthanasia started only in 1939 so Honekamp cannot have exploited it during his time in Brandenburg.

When he ran his own hospital there would have been little sense to engage in euthanasia because it actually destroyed the base of his business.

The sketchy details of his military postings show that he always was where the action was. More than enough cases of ordinary infections and wounds to keep a MD busy. Additionally I don't think the Wehrmacht would have been all that happy if he had started trying out his quack remedies on their men. They urgently needed them back in the field again.

That Honekamp's treatment of patients was not in accordance with today's professional standards is entirely possible but these standards have changed very much during recent decades.

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby campus honoris on 01 Mar 2010 00:08

Heimatschuss wrote:The sketchy details of his military postings show that he always was where the action was.


It doesn't seem to have been by chance that he was drafted right away, when WW2 began. The authorities had had an eye on him ever since he left Görden and the Civil Service. As the "Chefarzt" and owner of a 200 patients clinic he probably would have been classified as "unabkömmlich" under normal circumstances. Nearly all of his time in Poland, France and Russia he was a doctor at "vorgeschobener Verbandsplatz", which really meant where the action was. Even though he was given a couple of medals, in his military records he was regarded as a "schwieriger Untergebener".
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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby pcfl on 01 Mar 2010 00:41

My understanding of 'where the action was' is the eradication of jews and partisans from the area . The hospitals would have been cleared of patients by massacring them and providing wounded soldiers with beds..

The Görden school was run by the SS and produced people who obeyed them. Public Euthanasia was stopped through an outcry of some of the people including an cardinal of the church. However it continued behind closed doors and more importantly its particpants were simply despatched to the russian front and to Poland to provide expertise in murder and were the forefront of the death camps to come...

Going back to the original reasons for my queries, another twist is that Evelyn may have bore the 2 sons of Dr. Honekamp herself and provided a smokescreen through name changes since her remaining son John has not been able to receive his birth certificate from Germany at Bad Eilsen or some place like it.. when he made inquiries he was informed it had a red line through it with the comments that it was never to be divulged...a remaining puzzle is therefore how evelyn managed to get him into uk without one..

Dr. Honekamp was very familiar with someone called elferiede since a postcard existed on the web with this information written on it and sent from her..I believe it was sold. I am certain from the conversation I had with Evelyns son that Dr. Honekamp was heavily involved in nazi policy and Evelyns converations with me suggested this too.. by the way what is an Untergebener?

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby campus honoris on 01 Mar 2010 14:59

"Schwieriger Untergebener" = subordinate who is difficult to deal with
"vorgeschobener Verbandsplatz" = medical camp right behind the front line, where wounded soldiers got emergency treatment/operations before being transferred to a military hospital

Your statements in the first two paragraphs seem to simplify the matter too much, but anyway instead of going into a detailed discussion here, I'd rather dwell on the "Evelyn issue" in the other thread. I was able to get some new info on her.
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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby pcfl on 01 Mar 2010 19:12

Yes, I am sure he was a difficult person to deal with...

But he was an Oberstabsarzt... the highest ranking doctor there was, how can he have been subordinate... After Görden he was promoted to this rank and that didnt come easy unless you done some pretty rough stuff for the nazi regime and were able to appease them and their demands.

It would be interesting to know who he aligned himself beside in Poland and Russia and France...Mennecke was in Russia and Poland and would have had similar background...where did his orders come from in High command....did he have dealings with Conti, Brandt, Verschuer and other top ranking nazi doctors of ideology..
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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby pcfl on 06 Mar 2010 15:58

Thank you campus honoris and heimatschutz for all your valuable assitance. It has fascinated me at the wealth of information at your fingertips if you know where to look etc...

My search on this subject started from an intrigue on who Evelyn actually was in regard to her origins and background since although some information was forthcoming from Evelyn it was broken pieces of chesse and crumbs... As though there was a tremendous hidden knowledge behind her life and that of Dr. Honekamp hidden sometimes by smokescreens...

Whilst i believe there to be much more info to come about Dr. Honekamps experiments and his work, also that of his military career, My search should now take me to a new inquiry line perhaps exploring the german doctors on the russian/polish and french fronts to see if I can identify his location in these places... there must be some record of his whereabouts in his records... Is it worth opening a new and seperate thread on thi subject? Or would it be best to leave it open on this one... advice and assistance would be most welcome to a novice such as I am...

It would be intersting to see how many Oberstabsärzte there were too...

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby Heimatschuss on 07 Mar 2010 23:34

Hello pcfl,

I don't think it's necessary to start a new thread about Honekamp's time at the Eastern Front.

Oberstabsarzt is a Major in the Medical Corps. The entry position for doctors in the German forces is Stabsarzt (Captain) so Honekamp was promoted just once during the war. It's not a sensational career track for a doctor. There must have been many hundreds of them, perhaps even several thousand.

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Re: Dr med. P. Honekamp

Postby pcfl on 08 Mar 2010 10:45

Thanks for your advice Torsten,

It would be interesting to establiish which units he was atached to and locations. There was a mention in an earlier thread that he was active on the Eastern(Russian and Polish) fronts and spent time in France and perhaps useful to follow his unit activities in these locations. There must be some correspondence from him as a doctor to his superiors etc...

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