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Anna Kreisling

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Anna Kreisling

Postby brick2 on 25 Jan 2011 02:43

Did she exist? there are some strange claims about her on the internet but no factual records.
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Re: Anna Kreisling

Postby Heimatschuss on 26 Jan 2011 19:16

Hello brick,

some basic biographical data on her is here http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive ... 00644.html . What I don't know is where or how the author got that information.

IMO 'Anna Kreisling' is totally fictional. No mention of her in Zegenhagen's 2007 Ph.D. thesis on German aviatrices and Zegenhagen always appeared extremely well-informed on aviation personalities to me. That's particularly surprising because Kreisling (allegedly) was a Flugkapitän, i.e. high-profile professional aviator. Requirements for Flugkapitän were hard to meet for men, almost impossible for women of the time. You had to be older than 30 years with at least 8 years in aviation and 5 years in air transportation plus a completed 500.000 flight kilometers as a pilot. Even Hanna Reitsch and Countess von Stauffenberg received the title only ad honorem, not for fullfilling the requirements.

What is more, the family name 'Kreisling' doesn't exist in Germany or Austria at all :lol:
http://www.verwandt.de/karten/absolut/kreisling.html
http://www.verwandt.at/karten/index/alp ... 53_kr.html
Both search engines check the national phonebooks so have an extremely good coverage of family names.
No entries for 'Kreisling' at http://www.volksbund.de (German War Graves Commission) as well.

I have the odd feeling there may be a connection to the mysterious female fighter ace 'Grunter von Haart' who allegedly downed 168 allied planes in Italy. Discussion on her here
http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... ht=Grunter
and here
http://www.ww2f.com/air-war-western-eur ... owers.html

There seems to be some weir-do out there who's inventing German female pilots and planting them all over the internet. We have some experience with that already when it comes to fake SS men (Rolf Otto Schiller, Karl Metzger). Perhaps the same person is now operating in another exotic field looking for new prey?

References:

Zegenhagen, Evelyn
>>Schneidige deutsche Mädel<<. Fliegerinnen zwischen 1918 und 1945.
Wallstein Verlag, Göttingen, 2007


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