Could someone tell me who was the more powerful, Lammers or Meissner, and what positions they held, and what that position involved. Did they have much influence at all on events in the Third Reich.
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teatotaler -- Here's some bio information which may be helpful:
Lammers, Hans Heinrich (27.5.1879-4.1.1962) [SS-Obergruppenführer (hon.)] – WWI veteran; NSDAP: 1010355; SS: 118404; State Secretary in the Reich Chancellery 1933; State Secretary and Reich Chancellery chief (Staatssekretär und Chef der Reichkanzlei) 1934-1937; Minister without portfolio and Reich Chancellery chief (Reichminister ohne Portfeuille und Chef der Reichkanzlei) 1937-1945; member of the Reich Cabinet 1937-1945; member and executive secretary of the Reich Secret Cabinet Council (Geschaeftsfuehrendes Mitglied des Geheimen Kabinettsrates); counsellor for Reich Defense (Ministerrat für die Reichverteidigung) 30 Nov 1939-1945; executive member of the Ministerial Council for the Defense of the Reich (Geschaeftsfuehrendes Mitglied des Ministerrats fuer die Reichsverteidigung); member of the Academy for German Law (Mitglied der Akademie für Deutsches Recht); leader of the German Association of Administrative Academicians (Führer des Reichverbandes Deutscher Verwaltungs-Akademien) {captured by American troops May 1945 (NYT 12 May 1945:4:6); indicted by an American military tribunal in the "Ministries Case" on charges of having facilitated or participated in expropriations and the deportation of Jews from Nazi-occupied countries to the death camps 17 Feb 1947 (NYT 18 Feb 1947:16:3) or 3 Nov 1947 (NYT 3 Nov 1947:17:5); to get a separate trial (NYT 3 Mar 1947:5:7); arraignment 20 Dec 1947 (NYT 21 Dec 1947:12:7); put on trial 6 Jan 1948 (NYT 7 Jan 1948:10:5; NYT 13 Jan 1948:9:1; NYT 7 Feb 1948:4:5; NYT 5 Jun 1948:4:7; NYT 8 Jun 1948:16:1; NYT 9 Jun 1948:11:1; NYT 15 Jun 1948:20:2; NYT 3 Jul 1948:2:8; NYT 10 Nov 1948:9:1; NYT 20 Nov 1948:5:3; NYT 10 Apr 1949:13:1; NYT 11 Apr 1949:11:4); convicted of the murder and ill-treatment of captured allied flyers, of atrocities and offenses committed against civilian populations, of plunder and spoliation, of criminal participation in the slave labor program 12 Apr 1949 (NYT 12 Apr 1949:1:1; NYT 13 Apr 1949:17:3; NYT 14 Apr 1949:8:1; LT 12 Apr 1949:4d; LT 13 Apr 1949:3c; LT 14 Apr 1949:3d); sentenced to 20 years in prison (NYT 15 Apr 1949:8:3; LT 16 Apr 1949:4c); reduced 1951 by US High Commissioner for Germany John J. McCloy, on recommendation of the Clemency Board to 10 years; released 15 Dec 1951 (NYT 16 Dec 1951:12:2; LT 17 Dec 1951:5f; SS: Roll of Infamy p. 106), or 16 Dec 1951 (Who's Who 183-4), 1952 or 16 Dec 1954 (Encyclopedia of the Third Reich pps. 523-4); died at Duesseldorf 4 Jan 1962 (ABR-SS; Snyder Ency 204; Who's Who 183-4; Holo Ency 849, 1794; Encyclopedia of the Third Reich pps. 523-4; SS: Roll of Infamy p. 106; Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals vol. XII p. 16; Dienstaltersliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP [9 Nov 1944]).}
Meissner, Dr. jur. Otto Lebrecht (1880-1953) -- WWI veteran; State Secretary 1923-1937; head of Reich Presidential Chancellery (Chef der Praesidialkanzlei) 1934-1945; State Minister with the rank of Reich Minister without Portfolio 1937-1945 {indicted by an American military tribunal 12 Apr 1949 in the "Ministries Case" on charges of having facilitated or participated in expropriations and the deportation of Jews from Nazi-occupied countries to the death camps 17 Feb 1947 (NYT 18 Feb 1947:16:3) or 3 Nov 1947 (NYT 3 Nov 1947:17:5); arraignment 20 Dec 1947 (NYT 21 Dec 1947:12:7); put on trial 6 Jan 1948 (NYT 7 Jan 1948:10:5; NYT 13 Jan 1948:9:1; NYT 7 Feb 1948:4:5; NYT 5 Jun 1948:4:7; NYT 8 Jun 1948:16:1; NYT 9 Jun 1948:11:1; NYT 15 Jun 1948:20:2; NYT 3 Jul 1948:2:8; NYT 10 Nov 1948:9:1; NYT 20 Nov 1948:5:3); acquitted (NYT 13 Apr 1949:17:3; LT 12 Apr 1949:4d; LT 14 Apr 1949:3d); acquitted by three denazification courts; all charges dropped Jan 1952; died 27 May or 28 May 1953 at Munich (ABR-Kanzlei; Holo Ency 1794; Who's Who p. 207; SS: Roll of Infamy p. 117; Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals vol. XII p. 17).}
Lammers, Hans Heinrich (27.5.1879-4.1.1962) [SS-Obergruppenführer (hon.)] – WWI veteran; NSDAP: 1010355; SS: 118404; State Secretary in the Reich Chancellery 1933; State Secretary and Reich Chancellery chief (Staatssekretär und Chef der Reichkanzlei) 1934-1937; Minister without portfolio and Reich Chancellery chief (Reichminister ohne Portfeuille und Chef der Reichkanzlei) 1937-1945; member of the Reich Cabinet 1937-1945; member and executive secretary of the Reich Secret Cabinet Council (Geschaeftsfuehrendes Mitglied des Geheimen Kabinettsrates); counsellor for Reich Defense (Ministerrat für die Reichverteidigung) 30 Nov 1939-1945; executive member of the Ministerial Council for the Defense of the Reich (Geschaeftsfuehrendes Mitglied des Ministerrats fuer die Reichsverteidigung); member of the Academy for German Law (Mitglied der Akademie für Deutsches Recht); leader of the German Association of Administrative Academicians (Führer des Reichverbandes Deutscher Verwaltungs-Akademien) {captured by American troops May 1945 (NYT 12 May 1945:4:6); indicted by an American military tribunal in the "Ministries Case" on charges of having facilitated or participated in expropriations and the deportation of Jews from Nazi-occupied countries to the death camps 17 Feb 1947 (NYT 18 Feb 1947:16:3) or 3 Nov 1947 (NYT 3 Nov 1947:17:5); to get a separate trial (NYT 3 Mar 1947:5:7); arraignment 20 Dec 1947 (NYT 21 Dec 1947:12:7); put on trial 6 Jan 1948 (NYT 7 Jan 1948:10:5; NYT 13 Jan 1948:9:1; NYT 7 Feb 1948:4:5; NYT 5 Jun 1948:4:7; NYT 8 Jun 1948:16:1; NYT 9 Jun 1948:11:1; NYT 15 Jun 1948:20:2; NYT 3 Jul 1948:2:8; NYT 10 Nov 1948:9:1; NYT 20 Nov 1948:5:3; NYT 10 Apr 1949:13:1; NYT 11 Apr 1949:11:4); convicted of the murder and ill-treatment of captured allied flyers, of atrocities and offenses committed against civilian populations, of plunder and spoliation, of criminal participation in the slave labor program 12 Apr 1949 (NYT 12 Apr 1949:1:1; NYT 13 Apr 1949:17:3; NYT 14 Apr 1949:8:1; LT 12 Apr 1949:4d; LT 13 Apr 1949:3c; LT 14 Apr 1949:3d); sentenced to 20 years in prison (NYT 15 Apr 1949:8:3; LT 16 Apr 1949:4c); reduced 1951 by US High Commissioner for Germany John J. McCloy, on recommendation of the Clemency Board to 10 years; released 15 Dec 1951 (NYT 16 Dec 1951:12:2; LT 17 Dec 1951:5f; SS: Roll of Infamy p. 106), or 16 Dec 1951 (Who's Who 183-4), 1952 or 16 Dec 1954 (Encyclopedia of the Third Reich pps. 523-4); died at Duesseldorf 4 Jan 1962 (ABR-SS; Snyder Ency 204; Who's Who 183-4; Holo Ency 849, 1794; Encyclopedia of the Third Reich pps. 523-4; SS: Roll of Infamy p. 106; Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals vol. XII p. 16; Dienstaltersliste der Schutzstaffel der NSDAP [9 Nov 1944]).}
Meissner, Dr. jur. Otto Lebrecht (1880-1953) -- WWI veteran; State Secretary 1923-1937; head of Reich Presidential Chancellery (Chef der Praesidialkanzlei) 1934-1945; State Minister with the rank of Reich Minister without Portfolio 1937-1945 {indicted by an American military tribunal 12 Apr 1949 in the "Ministries Case" on charges of having facilitated or participated in expropriations and the deportation of Jews from Nazi-occupied countries to the death camps 17 Feb 1947 (NYT 18 Feb 1947:16:3) or 3 Nov 1947 (NYT 3 Nov 1947:17:5); arraignment 20 Dec 1947 (NYT 21 Dec 1947:12:7); put on trial 6 Jan 1948 (NYT 7 Jan 1948:10:5; NYT 13 Jan 1948:9:1; NYT 7 Feb 1948:4:5; NYT 5 Jun 1948:4:7; NYT 8 Jun 1948:16:1; NYT 9 Jun 1948:11:1; NYT 15 Jun 1948:20:2; NYT 3 Jul 1948:2:8; NYT 10 Nov 1948:9:1; NYT 20 Nov 1948:5:3); acquitted (NYT 13 Apr 1949:17:3; LT 12 Apr 1949:4d; LT 14 Apr 1949:3d); acquitted by three denazification courts; all charges dropped Jan 1952; died 27 May or 28 May 1953 at Munich (ABR-Kanzlei; Holo Ency 1794; Who's Who p. 207; SS: Roll of Infamy p. 117; Trials of War Criminals Before the Nuernberg Military Tribunals vol. XII p. 17).}