missing first names of Colonels with RDA-dates

[manage1]

Re Linde

There was also a Siegfried von der Linde DOB 12/7/1893 who rose to the rank of Gen/Maj?

regards

manage1

[Rossano]

Generals are out of question here. The requested officers ended the war as colonels. Rossano

[Dave Danner]

Rossano, I was in Germany for a month and have been working through my research from there, so I have not done much more with Wehrmacht officers for a while. I do have a little to add

Oberst(1.4.43) Krüger

Yours is Rudolf. For convenience, since it is a common name, here are all my Colonels Krüger:

Oberst:
• Krüger, Erich, *20.9.1892 in Ludwigsburg; 1.12.42(15) Oberst, ab 1.5.42 Kdr. WBK Donaueschingen
• Krüger, Friedrich Eduard Albrecht Paul, * 17.7.1900 in Ostorf, Schwerin; 1.1.44 Oberst mit RDA v. 1.11.43(22a), 3.11.44 Kdr. GR 585
• Krüger, Johannes Heinrich Paul, *2.5.1898 in Stade; 1.1.44(25b) Oberst, 10.6.43-24.10.44 Kdr. AR 150, ab 24.10.44 Abt.Chef, Wa J Rü/Mun 1
• Krüger, Paul, *5.8.1893 in Sophienhof, Demmin; 1.9.42(50) Oberst, 10.1.44 Kdr. d. Fest.Inf.Rgt.Stabes 938
• Krüger, Paul Theodor August, *12.9.1892 in Neustettin; 1.12.42(-) Oberst(W), Kdr. Pz.Fz.Kdo unter d. Heeresfeldzeugmeister
• Krüger, Friedrich Ferdinand Rudolf, *25.6.1889 in Liebenau, Züllichau; 1.4.43(33) Oberst, 1.12.42-1.2.45 Kdr. WBK Landsberg/Warthe, ab 1.2.45 Musterungsoffz. WBK Frankfurt/Oder
• Krüger, Johann Martin Walter. *9.11.1897 in Beuthen i. Oberschlesien; 1.1.43(99a) Oberst, 15.10.42-4.10.44 Kdr. FR 202, 5.9.44 Fhr.Res.OKH, 13.2.45-15.3.45 17.Div.Fhr.Lhrg.

Oberstleutnant:
• Krüger, Emil Otto Ernst, *20.12.1889 in Bütow; 1.8.43(9) Obstlt.(W), Vorstand Heeres-Nebenzeugamt Allenstein
• Krüger, Georg Karl Martin, *4.2.1897 in Blondzmin, Schwetz; 1.2.44(15) Obstlt., Sachbearb. Ia, WBK Ausland
• Krüger, Hugo, *4.11.1890 in Erika, Hohensalza; 1.3.43(40) Obstlt., 1.12.43-15.3.44 Kdr. Nachr.Abt. 50
• Krüger, Johannes Georg, *16.2.1891 in Dauer, Prenzlau; 1.4.42(183) Obstlt., Abt.Leiter beim Stab Stellv.Gkdo. II.AK
• Krüger, Johannes Georg, *14.8.1894 in Frankenberg, Floha; 1.1.43(14) Obstlt., Leiter d. Stabes Kdr.d.Kgf. IV

Regards

[Heimatschuss]

Hello Rossano,

I know you check the officer lists of 123guderian at Panzer-Archiv on a regular basis but I've found entries there for the following names with correct RDA each time:

Krüger (= Krueger?)
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... 853#192853

Schlee
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... 233#200233

Spatz
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... 670#201670

Specht
http://forum.panzer-archiv.de/viewtopic ... 751#201751

Are these cases above all to be ignored because you've already looked into them?


In the case of Oberst Warmuth I've found two vague hints:

a)
Oberstleutnant Reinhold Warmuth, CO of Pionierbataillon 41 was KIA on May 18th, 1940.
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... iBat41.htm
But in the database of the Volksbund he's listed as Oberst. This may point to a posthumous promotion. Did such cases receive a RDA too?

b)
The address books of Vienna show an Oberst Wilhelm Warmuth in the 1942 edition.
http://www.digital.wienbibliothek.at/wb ... iew/266100
From 1939 till 1941 he's just listed as a Major there. This could mean he was promoted to Oberst rank when the 1942 edition was being compiled.

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Hello to all of You :
Thanks to Hans (I sent You an email...)
Thanks to Dave (as helpful as always....)
Thanks to Torsten (I sent You a private message...)
I will soon add new officers without first names....
Rgds., Rossano

[Rossano]

Hello Gentlemen
Nobody finds out who that Oberst Petrini was ?
Herebelow new officers with missing first names :
Ob.(1.4.44) Sator (also, when OTL. ? )
OTL.(1.1.42) Baumgart (3.1.39 Hptm. u. Ltr. WMA. Dramburg)
OTL.(1.2.42) Friese
OTL.(1.1.44) Wagner
OTL.(1.4.42) Dr. Hoffmann
Ob.(1.10.37) Kleist
OTL.(1.4.44) Grell
OTL.(1.4.44) Haug
OTL.(1.10.41) Sachs
OTL.(1.10.43) Ahrens
OTL.(1.4.44) Antony
OTL.(1.4.42) Mau
OTL.(1.4.42) Rößler
Maj.(1.10.43) OTL.(20.4.45) Siemens
OTL.(1.4.44) Beckmann
OTL.(1.3.44) Lange
OTL.(1.2.44) Dr. Moosmann
OTL.(1.2.44) Kaiser
OTL.(1.2.44) Langisch
OTL.(1.3.42) Keil
OTL.(1.12.42) Drescher
OTL.(1.4.42) Hoefer
OTL.(1.7.43) Fröhlich
OTL.(1.12.43) Stenzel
OTL.(1.2.42) Koeppe
OTL.(1.4.42) Wendland
OTL.(1.11.41) Hildebrandt
OTL.(1.4.44) Blum (Heinrich, or ? )
Any help will be strongly appreciated. Thanks to all
Rgds., Rossano

[Rossano]

Hello Dieter
I am a member from Italy (not from Kazakhstan....). Kindly correct everywhere....
Thanks, Rossano

[Dave Danner]

OTL.(1.10.43) Ahrens

Ahrens, Clemens Johann Franz, *24.11.1895 in Bellersen; OTL 1.10.43(13)

OTL.(1.4.44) Antony

Antony, Emil Armandus Matthias, *15.1.1886 in Malmedy; OTL 1.4.44(21)

OTL.(1.1.42) Baumgart (3.1.39 Hptm. u. Ltr. WMA. Dramburg)

I have an OTL on 1.1.42 Rudolf Richard Alfred Baumgart, *1.12.1892. He was promoted to Oberst on 1.8.44

OTL.(1.4.44) Blum (Heinrich, or ? )

Blum, Heinrich, *7.4.1895 in Durlach, Baden; OTL 1.4.44(143)

OTL.(1.12.42) Drescher

Drescher, Johannes Karl Ferdinand Martin Otto, *25.7.1892 in Berlin; OTL 1.12.42(33), 1.1.45 Kdr. H.Küst.Art.R 983

OTL.(1.2.42) Friese

Friese, Friedrich-Wilhelm Andreas Gottlieb, *13.8.1893 in Leipzig; OTL 1.2.42(298)

OTL.(1.7.43) Fröhlich

Fröhlich, Gottfried, *14.8.1889. Former Austrian officer.

OTL.(1.4.44) Grell

Grell, Otto Peter Heinrich, *13.12.1893 in Ahrensbök in Holstein; OTL 1.4.44(103)

OTL.(1.4.44) Haug

Haug, Ernst Julius, *31.1.1894 in Stuttgart; OTL 1.4.44(144)

OTL.(1.11.41) Hildebrandt

Hildebrandt, Johannes Paul, *1.5.1890 in Dresden; OTL 1.11.41(46), Oberst 1.7.44(10)

OTL.(1.4.42) Hoefer

Hoefer, Karl Friedrich Oskar, *27.8.1891 in Hersfeld; OTL 1.4.42(878)

OTL.(1.4.42) Dr. Hoffmann

Hoffmann, Dr. jur. utr. Emil Eduard, *17.8.1887 in Straßburg in Elsaß; OTL 1.4.42(939), 1.3.44 erhielt RDA v. 1.4.42(48); His Doctor juris utriusque means his degree was in both civil and canonical law.

OTL.(1.2.44) Kaiser

Kaiser, Ernst, *6.12.1892 in Langenaubach, Dillkreis; OTL 1.2.44(25), 12.1.45 Kdt. d. Platzkdtr. 11/1021

OTL.(1.3.42) Keil

Keil, August, *7.8.1897 in Aachen; OTL 1.3.42(252)

OTL.(1.2.42) Koeppe

Koeppe, Friedrich, *9.3.1890 in Rosefeld, Dessau; OTL 1.2.42(305)

OTL.(1.4.42) Mau

Mau, Hans Georg Gustav Adolf, *23.1.1894 in Slawenitz, Cosel; OTL 1.4.42(606)

OTL.(1.4.42) Rößler

I have: Roessler, Hans Erich Günther Wilhelm, *11.2.1892; OTL 1.4.42, 6.12.39-31.8.42 Kdr. Div.Nachschubtr. 82.ID

OTL.(1.10.41) Sachs

Sachs, Ludwig, *12.12.1889 in Graz. Former Austrian officer.

Of your last list, that leaves:

OTL.(1.4.44) Beckmann
Ob.(1.10.37) Kleist
OTL.(1.3.44) Lange
OTL.(1.2.44) Langisch
OTL.(1.2.44) Dr. Moosmann
Ob.(1.4.44) Sator (also, when OTL. ? )
Maj.(1.10.43) OTL.(20.4.45) Siemens
OTL.(1.12.43) Stenzel
OTL.(1.1.44) Wagner
OTL.(1.4.42) Wendland

Given his seniority, Kleist was no doubt retired or dead before the war. I have a lot of Beckmanns, but none with that RDA, so either he was born after 1900 and I ignored him, or he may have died before the end of the war.

[Rudolf44]

Hello,

Oberst:
• Krüger, Erich, *20.9.1892 in Ludwigsburg; 1.12.42(15) Oberst, ab 1.5.42 Kdr. WBK Donaueschingen
• Krüger, Friedrich Eduard Albrecht Paul, * 17.7.1900 in Ostorf, Schwerin; 1.1.44 Oberst mit RDA v. 1.11.43(22a), 3.11.44 Kdr. GR 585
• Krüger, Johannes Heinrich Paul, *2.5.1898 in Stade; 1.1.44(25b) Oberst, 10.6.43-24.10.44 Kdr. AR 150, ab 24.10.44 Abt.Chef, Wa J Rü/Mun 1
• Krüger, Paul, *5.8.1893 in Sophienhof, Demmin; 1.9.42(50) Oberst, 10.1.44 Kdr. d. Fest.Inf.Rgt.Stabes 938
• Krüger, Paul Theodor August, *12.9.1892 in Neustettin; 1.12.42(-) Oberst(W), Kdr. Pz.Fz.Kdo unter d. Heeresfeldzeugmeister
• Krüger, Friedrich Ferdinand Rudolf, *25.6.1889 in Liebenau, Züllichau; 1.4.43(33) Oberst, 1.12.42-1.2.45 Kdr. WBK Landsberg/Warthe, ab 1.2.45 Musterungsoffz. WBK Frankfurt/Oder
• Krüger, Johann Martin Walter. *9.11.1897 in Beuthen i. Oberschlesien; 1.1.43(99a) Oberst, 15.10.42-4.10.44 Kdr. FR 202, 5.9.44 Fhr.Res.OKH, 13.2.45-15.3.45 17.Div.Fhr.Lhrg.

Anyone have the first name of this Oberst Krüger (01.11.43, 24a) please ?

Thanks in advance
Rudolf

[Rudolf44]

Hello,

Anyone have the first name of this Oberst Krüger (01.11.43, 24a)

Could it be Walther Krüger born on 26.03.1902, RK on 27.08.1943 ?

[Rossano]

Gentlemen,
no more first names for my first long list above ? For example : Petrini, Presting, etc. ? Pls. push.......
I add herebelow a few more, in the hope that You´ll give me all their missing first names.
-Ob.(1.4.44) Sator (also, when OTL. ? )
-Art.Ob.(1.12.44) Zsiska
-Art.Ob.(1.4.42) Wellhausen
-Ob.(1.3.42) Berwig
-Ob.(1.4.42) Haendler
-OTL.(1.3.42) Kleeberg
-Ob.(1.9.42) Grobler
THANKS to all for Your efforts, Rossano

[Heimatschuss]

Hello,

perhaps this site helps you http://www.ahnenforschung-buenger.de/pafg167.htm :

PAUL Emil Otto August WELLHAUSEN
born Apr 26th, 1889 in Berlin

Oberst and commander of Wehrbezirkskommando Pirna

More details on his military career are in Geschlechterbuch (1956, p.368):

Kinder Wellhausen, zu Berlin geboren:
1.Paul Emil Otto August, * 26. 4. 1889,
Oberst a. D.; 1910 bis 1919 Fahnenjunker bis Hauptmann im 2. Nassauischen Feldart. - Rgt Nr 63
in Frankfurt a. M., Kriegsteilnehmer 1914—1918 beim Res.-Feldart. Rgt. Nr. 11,
1920 - 1936 bei der Verwaltung der Rheinisch-Westfälischen Elektrizitätswerke, 1936 Major,
dann Oberstleutnant beim Wehrmeldeamt Zittau, dann Oberst

-Ob.(1.9.42) Grobler

This is presumably Eugen Grobler
born April 18th, 1884 in Rottweil
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/o ... andort=Gro

References:

Deutsches Geschlechterbuch
Vol. 121
C.A. Starke Verlag; Limburg (Lahn); 1956

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Grazie Torsten ! Keep going......See also my p.m., Rossano

[Dave Danner]

-Art.Ob.(1.12.44) Zsiska - Alexander Zsiska, *3.10.1894; Austrian
-Ob.(1.3.42) Berwig - Hans Berwig, *12.6.1890
-Ob.(1.4.42) Haendler - Kurt Haendler, *15.2.1897
-OTL.(1.3.42) Kleeberg - Hermann Kleeberg, *13.3.1898
-Ob.(1.9.42) Grobler - Eugen Grobler, *18.4.1884

[Rossano]

Super Dave ! I told You, You´re the best. Can´t You try to solve the remaining ones too ? Friendly, Rossano