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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Heimatschuss » 05 Apr 2014, 09:30

Hello,
Rossano wrote: Any assignements (from begin./mid 43 on only !) for Maj. (1.12.43) Nevermann Rudolf ?
there was a Major Rudolf Nevermann who was the final commander of Grenadier-Ersatz-und Ausbildungs-Bataillon 6 in March/April 1945. With his battalion he was deployed to the area south of Osnabrück where they arrived on Mar 30th.

The blocking force was deployed along the Teutoburger Wald ridge and consisted of:
Grenadier-Ersatz-und Ausbildungs-Bataillon 6 (4 companies)
Grenadier-Ersatz-und Ausbildungs-Bataillon 46 (1 company)
Landesschützen-Bataillon 665[? or 666 perhaps?] (1 company)
Grenadier-Ersatz-und Ausbildungs-Regiment 30 (1 infantry gun company, 1 mortar company)
It was initially commanded by an Oberst Kessler from GrErs.- und Ausb. Rgt. 30 but he promptly got lost when trying to obtain instructions from his superiors at Division Nr. 490. So Nevermann took over command of the Kampfgruppe instead that had to defend a 12 km sector south-west of Tecklenburg. During the fighting in Tecklenburg Major Nevermann was taken POW by British forces on April 3rd.

Other tidbits on Major Nevermann:
- He joined Reichswehr on April 1st, 1930. Obviously a former NCO
- Before coming to Gren.-Ers.-u. Ausb.-Btl. 6 he'd suffered a severe leg injury and could just walk with a limp. Nevermann must have been recuperating for some time in 1944/45 so was out of business.

All info from Wegmann (1982, pp.31-35).

References:

Wegmann, Günter
Das Kriegsende zwischen Ems und Weser 1945.
Kommissionsverlag H.Th. Wenner; Osnabrück; 1982

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 05 Apr 2014, 11:09

excellent Torsten ! Is there a reference (in Wegmann' s book) as to who were 3/4.45 the commanders of GEuAB.46 and of LSB.665?666 ?
If Nevermann took over command of the Kampfgruppe it surely means that he took over command (as deputy) of GEuAR.30 too (instead of Ob. Kessler), yes ? If so, who took over command (as deputy) of Nevermann' s Bataillon ? Last question, was on 3.4 taken prisoner (with Nevermann) the whole Kampfgruppe (incl. the Rgt. and the Btls.) ? If not who commanded then the Kampfgruppe (Rgt.) ? Thanks, Rossano


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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 05 Apr 2014, 11:27

Thanks Dave
Referring to these "jung" Majore I only hope now that Hans can give me their first names...
Rgds., Rossano

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Dave Danner » 08 Apr 2014, 05:19

I do have a handful of officers I have come across who are not in Hans' list because they were not active until after January 1939. Are you missing any of these"

• Lötsch - Maj. 1.9.44 mit RDA v. 1.8.43 (79a)
• Ludwig - Maj. 1.6.44 (32)
• Luhn - Hptm. 1.9.44 (41)
• Lüken - Maj. 1.6.44 (14a)
• Lustig - Maj. 1.1.44
• Lüth - Maj. 1.4.44 (68h) - maybe 68f or ?; it was handwritten

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 08 Apr 2014, 09:21

Dave, I' ll check in the next days, as soon as I get my computer back (got a virus). Rossano

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 09 Apr 2014, 09:10

Hello Dave
For Lötsch : If You have his first name (and ev. some assignements) it´d be great.....
For Ludwig : when Hptm. or from which unit ? If You have his first name (and ev. some assignements) it´d be great.....
For Luhn : I don´t have him (I only have 7.44 a Pi.Hptm. Luhn but without first name and without RDA)
I do have Lüken
For Lustig :I have in DAL 44 a Hptm.(1.8.43) Erwin from Jäg.Rgt.49. Is Yours(Maj. 1.1.44) the same officer or different ?
I do have Lüth
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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 09 Apr 2014, 11:23

Hello Torsten
This Munser (RKT, Res.Offz.) was born in 1905 (according to Photo) whilst "my" Munser was born in 1914 (according to his Karteikarte), so it can´t be the same officer. Can anybody add more data to both officers ?
Rgds., Rossano
Heimatschuss wrote:Hello,
Rossano wrote: First name of Maj. 1.7.43(53) Munser ? I find him in no DALs 43+44
Munser is a family name rather rare. There was a Hauptmann d. R. Rudolf Munser who received the Knight's Cross in April 1943. But when you look at this photo of him http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 2#p1415752 his shoulder boards show a 'braided' structure so he must have risen to Major (or even higher). Such an award surely was a recommendation for further promotion.

Anyone with more information on Rudolf Munser's career? On the internet I found almost nothing on him though he still seems to be alive.

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Heimatschuss » 09 Apr 2014, 14:01

Hi Rossano,

the date on the photo is obviously the day Munser signed this copy (05.09.2005). His birth date was 19.09.1914, see his entry at www.das-ritterkreuz.de . So the officer you were looking for is indeed Rudolf Munser.

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Post by Rossano » 09 Apr 2014, 15:13

Many thanks Torsten ! I should have investigated better (I wrongly took "05" on his photo as his "birth date 1905"). Friendly, Rossano

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Dave Danner » 10 Apr 2014, 00:35

Rossano wrote:Hello Dave
For Lötsch : If You have his first name (and ev. some assignements) it´d be great.....
For Ludwig : when Hptm. or from which unit ? If You have his first name (and ev. some assignements) it´d be great.....
For Luhn : I don´t have him (I only have 7.44 a Pi.Hptm. Luhn but without first name and without RDA)
I do have Lüken
For Lustig :I have in DAL 44 a Hptm.(1.8.43) Erwin from Jäg.Rgt.49. Is Yours(Maj. 1.1.44) the same officer or different ?
I do have Lüth
Thanks, Rossano
Lötsch, Heinz, *21.5.1912 in Annaberg; 1.8.38 Lt.d.R. im IR 32, 1.8.39 Lt. (RDA 1.1.38), 1.7.40 OLt., 1.1.43 Hptm., 1.8.43 Maj.; Stayed with IR 32 bzw. GR 32, for the most part.

Ludwig, Herbert, *22.5.1918 in Schönberg, Ölsnitz i.Vogtl.; Entered the Army on mobilization on 26.8.39 and moved quickly up the ranks, 1.4.41 Lt., 1.2.43 OLt., 1.9.43 Hptm., 1.6.44 Major. Below is his March 1944 annual Beurteilung. After that date, he was named in the Ehrenblatt des Heeres on 7.5.1944 as Fhr., III./GR 12. On 18.8.14 he went into the Fhr.Res. under simultaneous commandment to OKH/AHA/In 2, and on 20.11.44 he was transferred there as Sachbearbeiter Ic.
Ludwig, Herbert 1918.JPG

Luhn, Richard, *14.11.1918 in Hameln. Friedensdienststelle was Geb.A.R. 113. From 1.9.39 until being wounded on 1.7.41, he was a Bttr.Offz. in GebAR 111, After recovery, he was a Bttr.Chef in AR 387 from 2.1.42 until being wounded again on 1.10.42. From 2.4.43-21.2.44 Bttr.Chef, Abt.Adj., and Rgts.Adj. in AR 268, from 22.2.-29.5.44 again in Lazarett, and from 30.5.44 with the Offizier-Arbeitsgemeinschaft of le.Art.Ers.u.Ausb.Abt. 34.

• Yes, you have the same Lustig: Lustig, Erwin Paul Wilhelm, *12.1.1919 in Breslau. 1.6.40 Lt.d.R., 1.6.42 OLt.d.R., 1.8.43 Hptm.d.R., 1.2.44 im aktiven Heere angestellt mit RDA v. 1.8.43, 1.1.44 Major. from 26.8.39 to 23.12.41 Zugfhr. in IR 49 (from 11.12.41 JägR 49), then wounded. Returned 1.8.42 as a Zugfhr., Kp.Fhr., Kp.Chef, and stellv.Btls.Fhr. in GR 529. DKiG on 1.11.43 as Kp.Chef., 3./GR 529. Nennung im Ehrenblatt on 5.4.44 as Btls.Fhr. II./GR 529.

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Heimatschuss » 10 Apr 2014, 10:26

Hello,
Rossano wrote: First name of Maj. 1.9.44 (114) Mertens (from Füs.Rgt.68) ? Any assignements ? I find him in no DALs.
sounds very much like the highly-decorated Otto Mertens.

DKiG on July 4th, 1943 as Oberleutnant d. R. in 1./Füsilier-Regiment 68.
Knight's Cross on April 11th, 1944 as Hauptmann d. R., leading III./Füsilier-Regiment 68.

Final rank Major i.G.

http://en.ww2awards.com/person/11967
http://www.das-ritterkreuz.de/index_sea ... rd=mertens

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 10 Apr 2014, 12:43

Dear Dave, very exhaustive as usual. Many thanks
P.S.: these last officers too are "too young", so maybe You have some more in my previous lists ? Pls. kindly check....

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rudolf44 » 11 Apr 2014, 12:02

Hello,
Rossano wrote: P.S. 2 : Do You have Ob. 1.4.44(13) Weiß ? If yes, pls. first name ?
I have found a Hptm. (E) Erich Weiß in DAL for Erg.Offz. of 1935. I think he"s our man. This is what I have found of him according to the Stellenbesetzungen from 1935 to 1938 :

01.06.34 Hptm. (E) (57), later (1938) new RDA v. 01.12.33 (60), Maj. (E) 01.04.39 (66)

1935 serve in Erg.Btl. 8
1936 Chef 15.(E) Kp./IR 39
1937 Stab WEI Köln
1938 Chef 1.(E) Kp./IR 79

The last peacetime position of Oberst Weiß is with IR 79 ...

Any confirmation of this (particularly the RDA changing in 1938) is welcome :wink:

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Post by Rossano » 11 Apr 2014, 20:21

Hello Rudolf
I´ve no elements to confirm, but I think that You guess right. Thanks
Rgds., Rossano

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Re: Majore with missing first names (with RDA-dates)

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Post by Rossano » 21 Apr 2014, 21:32

Hello Gentlemen
I hope You can help me with the following officers too :
Any assignements for Maj. 1.2.44(32a) (from Rgt. 39) Peters Paul ?
Any assignments(from 43 on) for Maj. 1.4.41(35) from OKW/Ausl.(but according to Hans from MGB.3) Petersen Wolfg. ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Maj. 1.12.38(112 c or d ?) (from Ob.d.H) Petzholz (when was he in Abw. I ?)
Any assignements for Maj. 1.1.42(301) (from Rgt. 134) Peyrl Franz ?
Any assignements for Hptm. 1.4.42, Maj. 1.10.44(26 b), (from Rgt. 57), Pfeiffer Udo ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Maj. 1.3.44(6 d) (from PGR.115) Pfeiffer ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Maj. 1.11.43(15 b)(from GR.80) Pfeil ? Possibly John Herm. Otto KIA 13.2.44 ?
Any assignements (1.40-12.44 only !) for Maj. 1.10.40(318) (later OTL.) Pfetten Josef Dr. Frhr. v. ?
Any assignements for Maj. 1.2.44(37 e) (from Rgt. 57) Pfläging Heinrich ?
Any assignements for Maj. 1.4.44(77 cc) (from Rgt. 88) Pflugmacher Herbert ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Maj. 1.1.44(14 o) (from AR.46) Pickavé ?
Any assignements (from mid 43 on only ! Beginning 43 he was cdr. III./GR.188) for Maj. 1.1.44(14 gg) Pietzek Walter ?
First name (and ev. any assignements from mid 44 on only !) for Maj. 1.11.40(134) (from IR.78) Piper ?
First name for Maj. 1.10.43(23 b) (from IR.24) Pohl ? Was he finally OTL. ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Maj. 1.12.40(60) (from IR.93) Polle ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Maj. 1.1.44(10 h) (from IR.43) Prang ?
Any assignements for Maj. 1.6.44(26 f) (from Rgt. 111) Prelle Johann-Albrecht ?
First name (and ev. any assignements 44/45 only) for Maj. 1.2.41(27), OTL. 1.6.44, (from GJR.137) Preuß ?
First name (and ev. any assignements) for Hptm. 1.9.42(123), Maj. 1.10.44, (from I./IR.129) Preuß ?
Any assignements for Hptm.(1.4.43), Maj. 9.11.44(144) (from MGB.8) Preuße Hans-Heinrich ?
Any assignements for Hptm.(1.1.42), Maj. 1.7.44(17 c) (from GR.84) Pusch Georg ?
Any assignements for Maj. 1.1.41(51 b) (from MGB.15) Putz Richard Ing. ?
I´ve Putz : in Stab 69.ID (when and in which position ?), 42 in Stab AOK Norwegen and 43 in Stab HGr. B (in which positions ?)
Thanks, Rossano

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