RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
The Bundesmarine Offizer (no. 4 in your picture) is probably Eichenlaubträger Robert Gysae who went on to become a Flottillenadmiral in the West German Bundesmarine. Robert Gysae was present as member of the Ehrenwache at Adenauer's funeral.
Source: http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... Robert.htm
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Source: http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... Robert.htm
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
Eichenlaubenträger Willy Langkeit was also part of the Ehrenwache at Adenaur's funeral. Langkeit held the rank of Brigadegeneral in the Bundesgrenzschutz but it's hard to tell who he is on your photograph.
Source: http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... -Willy.htm
Most german sources on the the subject of Konrad Adenaur's funeral states that there were six high-ranking Officers, all Ritterkreuzträger that constituted the Ehrenwache, although it's quite difficul to find a list of names...
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Source: http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... -Willy.htm
Most german sources on the the subject of Konrad Adenaur's funeral states that there were six high-ranking Officers, all Ritterkreuzträger that constituted the Ehrenwache, although it's quite difficul to find a list of names...
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Krollspell
Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
The Ehrenwache itself was of the Bundesgrenzschutz, so most probably Nr 3 would be Willy Langkeit
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
DIE BUNTE ILLUSTRIERTE fom 10. Mai 1967 with more pics
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
Gentlemen,
I don't think Willy Langkeit was in the pictures above. As Brigadegeneral im BGS he would have worn the WWII type steel German helmet. There were BGS generals present during Konrad Adenauer's funeral and they were all wearing the WWII type steel German helmet.
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I don't think Willy Langkeit was in the pictures above. As Brigadegeneral im BGS he would have worn the WWII type steel German helmet. There were BGS generals present during Konrad Adenauer's funeral and they were all wearing the WWII type steel German helmet.
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Edward L. Hsiao
Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
The officers were not chosen because of their former decorations, but because of their general's or admiral's rank. Gy sae had been an admiral for less than two weeks at the time of Adenauer's funeral. We can see two admirals, three Luftwaffe generals and three Heer generals, probably of one or two star rank. A search for active general officers as of April 1967 who were RKT should provide some results.
You can watch a film sequence here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ObpOoyCgc
And here is a picture of the BGS guard of honor in the Palais Schaumburg (not the Kölner Dom!):
You can watch a film sequence here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ObpOoyCgc
And here is a picture of the BGS guard of honor in the Palais Schaumburg (not the Kölner Dom!):
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Reason: The oriinal pic from Bundesarchiv is by mistake mirror-inverted
Reason: The oriinal pic from Bundesarchiv is by mistake mirror-inverted
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
A KC holder carrying one of Adenauer's funeral pillows.
Source: bild.net
Source: bild.net
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
Gentlemen,
I wonder what Bundesluftwaffe officer on the right of photo was wearing as neck order? Looks very unique with a crown on top!
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Edward L. Hsiao
I wonder what Bundesluftwaffe officer on the right of photo was wearing as neck order? Looks very unique with a crown on top!
Sincerely,
Edward L. Hsiao
Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
I saw that Dieter posted a list of Bundesmarine admirals with Ritterkreuz some time ago:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=15
Ites and Schroeter weren't admirals yet at the time of Adenauer's funeral, Rösing was already retired and Gysae has been identified. I would say the second BM officer is another Flottillenadmiral (narrow stripe). As Kuhnke and Topp were Konteradmirale in 1967, this leaves only Guggenberger, Kretschmer and Thomsen as candidates.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&start=15
Ites and Schroeter weren't admirals yet at the time of Adenauer's funeral, Rösing was already retired and Gysae has been identified. I would say the second BM officer is another Flottillenadmiral (narrow stripe). As Kuhnke and Topp were Konteradmirale in 1967, this leaves only Guggenberger, Kretschmer and Thomsen as candidates.
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Re: RKTs guarding the coffin of Konrad Adenauer
Greece: Royal Order of George IEdward L. Hsiao wrote:Gentlemen,
I wonder what Bundesluftwaffe officer on the right of photo was wearing as neck order? Looks very unique with a crown on top!
Sincerely,
Edward L. Hsiao