Questions about new Oberste

[Frech]

Hi!

I have dug out the entries in "Schematismus für das Bundesheer" for Czesany:
DoB are from "Dienstrangsliste der Offiziere des Bundesheeres 1930"

Rangliste für das k.u.k. Heer 1916 names "Albert Edler von Czesany" but not an Anton or Maximilian. Therefore it appears that both were k.k. Landwehr-Offiziere or still no officers in 1916.

1928:
Anton Czesany (*10.01.1892): Major (23.01.1928) FJgB zu Rad Nr. 5
Maximilian Czesany (*12.01.1891): Hptm (12.01.2927) FJgB 2

1929: no Schematismus edited

1930:
Anton Czesany: Major (23.01.1928) FJgB zu Rad Nr. 5
Maximilian Czesany: Hptm (12.01.2927) FJgB 2

1931:
Anton Czesany: Major (23.01.1928) FJgB zu Rad Nr. 5
KTK, VerwM1
Maximilian Czesany: Major (18.06.1930) FJgB 2

1932:
same as for 1931

1933:
same as for 1932

1934:
no entry for Anton
Maximilian Czesany: Major (18.06.1930) FJgB 2

1935: no Schematismus edited

1936:
no entry for Anton
Maximilian Czesany: Major (18.06.1930) InfReg 7

1937:
no entry for Anton
Maximilian Czesany: Major (18.06.1930) InfReg 7

1938:
no entry for Anton
Maximilian Czesany: Major (18.06.1930) InfReg 7
BMVM.X, ÖKM.X, ung.KM

But no ALBERT Czsesany.

Rangliste 1944/45 says:

Czesany, Oberst (01.09.1941), 1939: Füs.Reg. 34 - this should be Anton
Czesany, Oberstleutnant (01.07.1943), 1939: WBK Leoben - could be Maximilian
Czesany, Oberstleutnant (01.11.1943), 1939: WBK Spittal/Drau - Albert?

A family enigma?

Regards

Christian

Regards

Christian

[Heimatschuss]

Hello Christian,

many thanks for spending so much time and effort on this search.

Rangliste für das k.u.k. Heer 1916 names "Albert Edler von Czesany" but not an Anton or Maximilian. Therefore it appears that both were k.k. Landwehr-Offiziere or still no officers in 1916.

I'm sure you mean Adalbert. The 1914 Schematismus I referred to was indeed that for Landwehr and Gendarmerie.

In 1947 Adalbert Czesany was living in Lienz as an Oberstlt. a. D..
(https://www.findbuch.at/de/amts-und-adr ... -1947.html)

Best regards
Torsten

[Frech]

I am sorry, it was a silly typo from Adalbert to Albert.

Regards

Christian

[Rossano]

Hello gentlemen, I have 9 more. I hope You can help me here too. Thanks, Rossano
1)Any assignments (1945 only !) for Ob. 1.4.42 (fr. Rgt."GD") v. Boguslawski Heinrich ?
2)Für den Ob.(1.4.41) Vüllers: Hans has "Friedrich" but I also found "Carl Otto" or/and "Heinrich". What is 100% correct ??
3)Any assignments (from end 44 on only !) for Ob. 1.4.43 (from OKH/Feldz.Insp.) Borck Hermann ?
4)Any assignments (from 9.44 on only !) for Ob. 1.1.44 (from Rgt.81) Boué Karl ?
5)Any assignments (44/45 only !) for Ob. 1.8.43 (from Rgt.67) Dr. Boysen Helmut ? I found him 1945 as cdr. GR.652 (from/to when exactly ?) or is this data wrong ?? Besides, his card reads "12.42-3.43 kdrt. z. Höh.Kdo.XXXIII", in which position ?
6)Any assignments for Ob. 1.2.42 (b. Ob.d.H.) Bierbrauer zu Brennstein, Franz v. ? Until when was he Kdt. WBK. Oschatz ? Then what ? Then from/to when Ia Div.Nr.158 ? Then what else ? Finally, from when was he 1945 Kpf.Kdt. v. Naumburg ?
7)Any assignments (9.43-1.45 only !) for Ob. 1.6.42(38) (from MGB.4) Dr. Braun Wilhelm ?
8)Any assignments (but 42/43 only !) for Ob. 1.8.44(45) (from WBK.Ludwigshafen) Brüll Ludwig ?
9)First name+assignments (1.42-8.44 and 1945 only !) for Ob. 1.4.44(from Rgt.41) Brunschlik ? Maybe Josef ?(So one in Internet)

[Rossano]

Is it possible that nobody can reply to my previous questions ? Pls. push !!! Dave, where are You ???
Herebelow I add a few more :
Any assignments (43-45 only !) for Ob. 1.4.42 (from Rgt.124) Bezzenberger Fritz ?
Any assignments (from 9.43 on only !) for Ob. 1.7.41 (from GJR.136) Bierbaum Gustav ?
Any assignments (from 9.43 on only) for Ob. 1.4.38 (fr. Rgt.66) Bittrolff Harald ? His card last reads "8.43 Einarb. als Brig. Kdr."
Any assignments (from 9.43 on only !) for Otl. 1.11.43 (from NA.29) Brinkmann Kurt ?
Any assignments (or Dienstlaufbahn 9.39-5.45) for Ob. 1.3.42 (from XVIII.AK) Meiser Johann (or Hans ?) ?
Who can give official evidence for the first name of Ob. 1.2.44 (from Rgt.104) Strößner ? Kurt oder Konrad ???
First name + any assignments for Ob. 1.4.42 (Kdr. WBK. Braunsberg) Pfeiffer ? From/to when was he Kdr. WBK. Braunsberg ?

[Heimatschuss]

Hello Rossano,

here's one:

Bezzenberger, Fritz
Oberst
* 5. 6. 1899
+ 13. 2. 1944 (MIA off Norway, in a sunken transport ship)

Source:

Deutsches Geschlechterbuch
Vol. 122; Verlag C.A. Starke; Limburg/Lahn; 1957, p.XIX

No luck with your previous batch though.

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Thanks Torsten ! No way to find out which unit he commanded prior to his death ? Rgds., Rossano

[Heimatschuss]

Hello,

unfortunately the bit I've posted was the only information on Bezzenberger available to me.

A detailed account of Bittrolff's career written by himself is here: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... stcount=14

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Danke sehr Torsten, well done. Gruß, Rossano

[Rossano]

Hello Gentlemen (particularly Dave), no more help for my previous Obersten, Majore, etc. ?
Herebelow a few more Oberste :
Any assignments (from end 41 on only !) for Ob. 1.4.40 (from OKH/Feldz.In) Baumgart Ernst ?
Assignments for Ob.1.4.42(from XXIV.AK) Beck Ludwig ? Until 8.42 in St. Gen.Kdo.Saarpfalz/XXIV.AK, as IIa ? Then what ?
Any assignments (6.41-2.44 then 9.44-5.45 only !) for Ob. 1.4.42(2) (from Rgt.79) Becker Harald-Wilhelm ?
Any assignments (from 7.44 on only !) for Ob. 1.4.42(35) (Att. Preßburg) Becker Heinrich ?
Any assignments (1945 only !) for Ob. 1.12.43(35b) (from Rgt.6) Becker Artur ?
Any assignments (from 2.44 on only !) for Ob. 1.9.43 (from Rgt.74) Berling Franz ?
First name+any assignments(1945 only !) for Ob. 1.8.41 (from Rgt.10) Beinhoff ? He was under Bev.Gen.d.dt.Wehrm.i.Italien, role ?
Thanks, Rossano

[Heimatschuss]

Hi Rossano,

First name+any assignments(1945 only !) for Ob. 1.8.41 (from Rgt.10) Beinhoff ? He was under Bev.Gen.d.dt.Wehrm.i.Italien, role ?

the Dresden address books for 1942 and 1943/44 list an Oberst Christian Beinhoff.
http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/436/179/
http://digital.slub-dresden.de/werkansicht/dlf/406/142/

Must be the same chap who'd received both the Knight's Cross to Saxony's Albrechts-Orden (Roth, 1998, p.22) and the Knight's Cross to Saxony's Militär-Sankt-Heinrich-Orden (http://forum.balsi.de/index.php/topic,5 ... 4#msg37811) already when a 16-years old Leutnant.

In April 1945 there was an Oberst Beinhoff who was Platzkommandant Meran and then became liaison officer between the Germans forces and the CLN (Italian National Liberation Committe) plus the Allies (Lun, 2004, p.133,443).

References:

Lun, Margareth
NS-Herrschaft in Südtirol. Die Operationszone Alpenvorland 1943-1945.
StudienVerlag; Innsbruck, 2004

Roth, Erhard
Die Verleihungen des Ritterkreuzes 2. Klasse mit Schwerten des königlich sächsischen
Albrechtsordens im Ersten Weltkrieg 1914-1918.
PHV Phaleristischer Verlag Michael Autengruber; Offenbach; 1998

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Bravo Torsten ! You´re a very capable researcher, compliments ! Rgds., Rossano

[Heimatschuss]

Hello Rossano

Any assignments (from end 41 on only !) for Ob. 1.4.40 (from OKH/Feldz.In) Baumgart Ernst ?

according to Ernst Baumgart's own testimony in a 1946 police interrogation he'd been commander of the Baumholder military training ground from Oct. 5, 1940 till Mar 18, 1945 (Klausch, 1995, p.514).

References:
Klausch, Hans-Peter
Die Bewährungstruppe 500. Stellung und Funktion der Bewährungstruppe 500 im System von
NS-Wehrrecht, NS-Militärjustiz und Wehrmachtstrafvollzug.
Edition Temmen; Bremen; 1995

Best regards
Torsten

[Rossano]

Very good Torsten !! Thanks a lot, Rossano

[Rossano]

Hello Gentlemen,
No more replies to my Oberste and to my Majore (and to my last topics too) ???
Herebelow a few more Oberste. Thanks for any help.
Rgds., Rossano
1) Any assignments (9.39-9.44 only !) for Ob. 1.12.42 (from A.L. Bruck) Arway Alexander ?
2) Any assignments (9.39-12.44 only !) for Ob. 1.2.39 (Inf.Gerät-Inspiz.A/3) von Asmuth Curt ? Did Inspiz.(A) 3 still exhist after 9.39 ? He was (in Internet) 8.43 Ltr. Sonderstab B b. Insp. d. Inf. (OKH), from ? Until 12.44 when he died, or what last ?
3) Any assignments (9.43-5.45 only !) for Ob. 1.4.42 (from Tr.Üb.Pl. Groß Born) Augenreich Walter ?
4) Any assignments (from 1.44 on only !) for Ob. 1.6.41 (from KS. Potsdam) Baath Wilhelm ?
5) Any assignments (1945 only !) for Ob. 1.4.39 (from A.L. Regensburg 1) Bachmaier Julius ?
6) Any assignments (from end 44 on only !) for Ob. 1.4.42 (from Transp.Bez. Regensburg) Bantele Georg ?
7) Assignments(6-10.44 only) for Ob. 1.4.42(from Rgt.18) Barnbeck Hermann ? Died 25.10.44, when WIA & Cdr. of which unit ?)
8)I´ve Otl./Ob. v. Kleist Berndt 1941/45 in the Stab of HGr. Mitte, in which positions ? Maybe Ib (supply officer) or what ?