Nazi IQs

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Post by Nimrod » 11 May 2003, 02:39

We've just had the national IQ test here in the UK. What were the IQs of leading figures in the Nazi Party? Who had the highest score and was effectively the brightest and who scored the lowest to be the dumbest? :)

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Post by Simon » 11 May 2003, 02:50

This is a list from the Nürnberg-trial:

1. Hjalmar Schacht 143
2. Arthur Seyss-Inquart 141
3. Hermann Göring 138
4. Karl Dönitz 138
5. Franz von Papen 134
6. Eric Raeder 134
7. Dr. Hans Frank 130
8. Hans Fritsche 130
9. Baldur von Schirach 130
10. Joachim von Ribbentrop 129
11. Wilhelm Keitel 129
12. Albert Speer 128
13. Alfred Jodl 127
14. Alfred Rosenberg 127
15. Constantin von Neurath 125
16. Walther Funk 124
17. Wilhelm Frick 124
18. Rudolf Hess 120
19. Fritz Sauckel 118
20. Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113
21. Julius Streicher 106

http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/grady/nazi.html


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Post by Henrik » 11 May 2003, 03:04

I must say that I am impressed by the high IQ’s of these men, considering that the average IQ is 100 What a pity that they didn’t use their intelligence to the benefit of humanity.

Henrik, I've deleted the link as it may cause offence-Thanks

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Post by AgentBach » 11 May 2003, 04:32

Would the test and the results still be reliable today? :?

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Post by Sgt. Reese » 11 May 2003, 05:43

If you had asked me who was the smartest of the Nürnberg Defendants I'd have said Speer.

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Post by Oderint Dvm Metvant » 11 May 2003, 05:50

I've known 140s who accomplish essentially nothing in life and 110s who are the opposite - for IQ to matter you've got to apply it!
but at the same time - look at Schacht and what he did with his life - then look at Streicher, sometimes the differences are obvious :)

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Post by James McBride » 11 May 2003, 06:08

Henrik wrote:I must say that I am impressed by the high IQ’s of these men, considering that the average IQ is 100 . What a pity that they didn’t use their intelligence to the benefit of humanity.
For a "genius", that guy is a real "idiot". He writes as if everyone else who will read his website is a young child.
It would be better for Everyone, to utilize and have respect for high IQ persons; and not just classify them as only suitable for driving a taxi cab or other menial labor jobs. IQ is ones ability to Reason, and Solve complex problems, we could be solving everyones problems (in a wink).
James-I have deleted the examples of the "crap" you posted as it would cause offence to many poeple

There is much more crap there, if you feel the need to read it. I read for entertainment value, but after awhile I got tired of it. By the way, if the link doesn't work, it is because the period and close parentheses was somehow included in the link, and should not be there.

James

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Post by James McBride » 11 May 2003, 06:54

I took one of the tests quickly, the one he got a 145 on, and I got a 150. So I guess he better let me do all of the work involving thinking, because people of his low intellect are better suited to menial labour (I spelled it the British way, never done that before), while it is the geniuses like myself who can solve problems in this world. By the way, I will now be signing my posts like this:

James the Genius, of Superior Intellect, Logic, Reason, and vastly outnumbered by you commoners

(sorry for going off topic, but you must permit we of higher intelligence to do as we wish)

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Post by Lobscouse » 11 May 2003, 07:09

Admirals Doenitz and Raeder came out ahead of the generals, as did Georing. Now, if only we could test der Fuhrer.

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Post by dark_fang » 11 May 2003, 10:20

Yaa , compered to Demented Psycho's (some of them) they were queit smart.
to bad they missused their gifts.

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Post by Henrik » 11 May 2003, 10:46

James McBride wrote:For a "genius", that guy is a real "idiot". He writes as if everyone else who will read his website is a young child.
I agree, I was only referring to his site because he has information about what IQ points that is normal, above normal etc.

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Post by varjag » 11 May 2003, 13:33

Despite the truckoads of manure heaped on these men for 5½ decades the conclusion that the IQ-testers in Nürnberg came to - was, that they were a reasonably bright lot. Wouldn't it be nice to have a similar test run on the composite members of our various governments today? In some cases I do not care to mention - I'm certain the 'average' would fall far short - the those recorded at Nuremberg.

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Post by Johnny » 11 May 2003, 15:16

How do we know these results are authentic? I'm not sure, but when it comes to Streicher he was known for being a bit out of the loop and having a somewhat low IQ. So that speaks for it's authenticity. I also would have though Speer's to higher than Goerings. Maybe that goes to show that IQ has nothing to do with being smart, concidering Goerings defense tactics.

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Post by ChristopherPerrien » 11 May 2003, 15:39

I am not suprised by those scores, It doesn't hurt to have some cream to you to help rise to the top.

Not to equate the folllowing: Several FBI serial killer experts have noted in their books the relatively high IQ of most serial killers.

That being said,
"Watch out for dumb people, but look out for smart people!"

Chris- 160+ (when I was 8 ) 8)

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Post by James McBride » 11 May 2003, 20:45

Is it possible to guess at the IQ of Hitler? Because on the site that I made fun of earlier, he had the IQ's of notable thinkers like Newton and Benjamin Franklin, who definitely did not have the opportunity to take an IQ test during their lives.

James

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