German Generals 1933-1939

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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by JakeV » 24 Nov 2015, 19:46

How about Wilhelm Klein?

According to http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=105059:

31.05.1938 Char. Generalmajor

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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by askropp » 24 Nov 2015, 20:40

As I said before, this list only contains active officers. Klein was a retired officer who was later placed z.V.
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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by Jan-Hendrik » 25 Nov 2015, 08:31

Outstanding job, thank you very much!!

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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by Aisingioro » 27 Nov 2015, 15:15

askropp wrote:1938

Generalmajore
01.04.1938 (21c) ?
01.04.1938 (21c) Alois Veselý

http://forum.balsi.de/index.php/topic,8094.0.html

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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by askropp » 27 Nov 2015, 19:36

Thank you very much, but I don't think that "Wessely" was a typo in the 01.08.1938 list and that this officer was in fact Alois Veselý, as Rocky claims on the balsi forum. I believe the officer on that list was Marian von Wessely, because Wessely (and not Veselý) had an Austrian RDA of 01.01.1938 just like Basler, Glasner and Pohl. Also, Veselý was earmarked for retirement along with Emil Hickmann who retired on 31.05.1938, and this would explain his absence from the 01.08.1938 list.

For me, it looks as follows:

Marian von Wessely
01.01.1938 Austrian Generalmajor
15.03.1938 German Generalmajor ohne RDA
00.00.1938 Generalmajor mit RDA vom 01.04.1938 (21c)
00.00.1938 retired
(Both the RDA assignment and the retirement must have happened between 01.08.1938 and 10.11.1938)

Alois Veselý
22.06.1936 Austrian Generalmajor
15.03.1938 German Generalmajor ohne RDA
31.05.1938 retired (probably)

OR

Marian von Wessely
01.01.1938 Austrian Generalmajor
15.03.1938 German Generalmajor ohne RDA
00.00.1938 retired (between 01.08.1938 and 10.11.1938)

Alois Veselý
22.06.1936 Austrian Generalmajor
15.03.1938 German Generalmajor ohne RDA
00.00.1938 Generalmajor mit RDA vom 01.04.1938 (21c)
31.05.1938 retired (probably)

I would like to know Rocky's source for the 01.04.1938 (21c) RDA.
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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by askropp » 29 Nov 2015, 14:07

1939 (January to August)

Generaloberst
01.04.1939 Wilhelm List

Generale der Infanterie
01.01.1939 Hellmuth Volkmann - transferred from the Luftwaffe on 22.04.1940
01.04.1939 (1) Erich Raschick
01.04.1939 (2) Friedrich Karmann
01.04.1939 (4) Erich Friderici
01.04.1939 (5) Carl-Heinrich von Stülpnagel
01.05.1939 Richard Ruoff

Generale der Artillerie
01.04.1939 (3) Emil Leeb
01.04.1939 (6) Friedrich Fromm

General der Kavallerie
01.04.1939 (7) Erich Hoepner

Generalleutnante
01.01.1939 (1) Theodor Geib
01.01.1939 (2) Friedrich Olbricht
01.01.1939 (3) Georg-Hans Reinhardt
01.03.1939 Walter Graf von Brockdorff-Ahlefeldt
01.04.1939 (1) Moritz von Faber du Faur
01.04.1939 (2) Joachim Lemelsen
01.04.1939 (3) Karl Rudolph
01.06.1939 (1) Hermann Ritter von Speck
01.06.1939 (2) Wilhelm Fahrmbacher
01.06.1939 (3) Joachim von Kortzfleisch
01.06.1939 (4) Emmerich von Nagy
01.06.1939 (5) Valentin Feurstein
01.06.1939 (6) Friedrich Materna
01.06.1939 (7) Franz Boehme
01.08.1939 (1) Kurt von Briesen
01.08.1939 (2) Hans von Salmuth
01.08.1939 (3) Erik Hansen
01.08.1939 (4) Fritz Brand
01.08.1939 (5) Max von Hartlieb genannt Walsporn
01.08.1939 (6) Gustav Freiherr von Perfall
01.08.1939 (7) Alfred von Puttkamer
01.08.1939 (8) Georg Bertram
01.08.1939 (9) Max Pfeffer

Generalstabsärzte
01.03.1939 Albrecht Ziaja
01.04.1939 Karl Holm

Generalstabsveterinär
01.04.1939 Walter Semmler

Charakterisierte Generalleutnante
01.01.1939 Hans Stieler von Heydekampf
01.03.1939 Werner Pinckvoß
01.03.1939 Karl Sachs
01.03.1939 Johannes Zukertort
01.04.1939 Karl Moyses - issued on 20.04.1939
01.04.1939 Max von Hartlieb genannt Walsporn
01.04.1939 Heinrich Stümpfl - issued on 20.04.1939
01.04.1939 Fritz Büchs
01.06.1939 Hermann Boettcher

Generalmajore
01.01.1939 (1) Richard Satow
01.01.1939 (2) Erwin Engelbrecht
01.01.1939 (3) Karl Mehnert
01.01.1939 (4) Werner Kempf (first RDA)
01.01.1939 (5) Kurt Jahn
01.01.1939 (6) Friedrich Buschmann
01.01.1939 (7) Herbert von Böckmann (first RDA)
01.01.1939 (7a) Carl Hilpert - issued on 20.04.1939
01.01.1939 (8) Hermann Reinecke
01.01.1939 (9) Friedrich Paulus
01.01.1939 (10) Ferdinand Neuling
01.01.1939 (11) Otto von Knobelsdorff
01.01.1939 (12) Oskar Schimpf
01.01.1939 (13) Hans Schönhärl
01.02.1939 (1) Walter Schmid-Dankwart
01.02.1939 (2) Wilhelm Wetzel
01.02.1939 (3) Helge Arthur Auleb
01.03.1939 (1) Adolf Lechner
01.03.1939 (2) Albert Zehler
01.03.1939 (3) Otto Schellert
01.03.1939 (4) Erwin Leister
01.03.1939 (5) Helmuth von Kropff
01.03.1939 (6) Kurt von der Chevallerie
01.03.1939 (7) Paul Laux
01.03.1939 (8) Friedrich von Scotti
01.03.1939 (9) Horst Stumpff
01.03.1939 (10) Kurt Herzog
01.03.1939 (11) Alfred Kurz
01.03.1939 (12) Walter Friedrichs
01.04.1939 (1) Friedrich Eberhardt
01.04.1939 (2) Josef Folttmann
01.04.1939 (3) Erich von Schaewen
01.04.1939 (4) Eugen Müller
01.04.1939 (5) Ludwig Löweneck
01.04.1939 (6) Otto Stapf
01.04.1939 (7) Rudolf Konrad
01.04.1939 (8) Theodor Freiherr von Wrede
01.04.1939 (9) Otto-Ernst Ottenbacher
01.04.1939 (10) Alfred Jodl
01.04.1939 (11) Franz Karl
01.04.1939 (12) Emmerich von Nagy
01.04.1939 (13) Valentin Feurstein
01.04.1939 (13a) Karl Ebner - issued on 20.04.1939
01.04.1939 (13b) Joseph Brauner von Haydringen - issued on 20.04.1939
01.04.1939 (14) Erich Marcks
01.04.1939 (15) Carl Hilpert (first RDA)
01.04.1939 (16) Johann Sinnhuber
01.04.1939 (17) Gerhard Kauffmann
01.04.1939 (18) Karl Kriebel
01.04.1939 (19) Hans Heberlein
01.04.1939 (20) Friedrich Siebert
01.04.1939 (21) Georg Lang
01.04.1939 (22) Georg von Prondzynski
01.04.1939 (23) Hans Stengel
01.04.1939 (24) Moritz Andreas
01.06.1939 (1) Johann-Joachim Stever
01.06.1939 (2) Josef Lehmann
01.06.1939 (3) Martin Dehmel
01.06.1939 (4) Erich Straube
01.06.1939 (5) Otto Roettig
01.06.1939 (6) Sigfrid Henrici
01.06.1939 (7) Erich Schroeck
01.06.1939 (8) Philipp Kleffel
01.06.1939 (9) Enno von Rintelen
01.06.1939 (10) Otto Sponheimer
01.06.1939 (11) Karl von Oven
01.06.1939 (12) Johann Glasner
01.06.1939 (13) Walter Hinghofer
01.06.1939 (14) Hugo Höfl
01.06.1939 (15) Wilhelm Drogand
01.06.1939 (16) Erwin Rommel - issued on 27.08.1939
01.08.1939 (1) Herbert Geitner
01.08.1939 (2) Wilhelm Thofern
01.08.1939 (3) Wilhelm Stemmermann
01.08.1939 (4) Willi Moser
01.08.1939 (5) Wolf Boysen
01.08.1939 (6) Walter Wittke
01.08.1939 (7) Erwin Rommel (first RDA)
01.08.1939 (8) Friedrich-Wilhelm von Rothkirch und Panthen

Generalärzte
01.01.1939 Karl Meinardus
01.02.1939 Georg Kühl
01.03.1939 Curt Oehlmann
01.04.1939 (1) Max Wissemann
01.04.1939 (2) Hans Wagner
01.04.1939 (3) Hermann Grosse

Generalveterinäre
01.01.1939 Erich Rathsmann
01.04.1939 Erich Koehler
01.06.1939 Philipp Fritsch

Charakterisierte Generalmajore
01.01.1939 Rudolf Hartmann
01.02.1939 Hermann Schaefer
01.02.1939 Walter Eckstein
01.04.1939 Alexander Zäpffel - issued on 20.04.1939
01.04.1939 Gustav Kohl
01.06.1939 Hans Sehmsdorf
01.06.1939 Friedrich Meyer
01.06.1939 Eugen Bilharz
01.06.1939 Otto Gullmann
01.06.1939 Artur Schmitt
27.08.1939 Otto Quirin Lancelle
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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by Biofan » 30 Nov 2015, 04:34

askropp wrote:1939 (January to August)


01.01.1939 (3) Georg-Hans Reinhardt
Several sources state 1 october 1939

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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by histan » 30 Nov 2015, 12:31

Hi Biofan

These sources are mistaken. I believe they are repeating an original error made in Keilig Die Generale des Heeres.

The list presented in this thread has been compiled from original source material produced by the HPA (seniority lists, promotions lists, etc) and can be regarded as the best that can be produced from the available information.

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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by askropp » 20 Dec 2015, 23:42

One addition:

Charakterisierter Generalmajor
01.04.1939 Carl von Ammon
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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by Biofan » 15 Apr 2016, 01:04

histan wrote:Hi Biofan

These sources are mistaken. I believe they are repeating an original error made in Keilig Die Generale des Heeres.

The list presented in this thread has been compiled from original source material produced by the HPA (seniority lists, promotions lists, etc) and can be regarded as the best that can be produced from the available information.

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Sorry for the long delay. That makes sense with Max von Hartlieb [Generalleutnant 1.8.1939 (5)] as subordinate commander in Poland.
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Re: German Generals 1933-1939

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Post by askropp » 15 Apr 2016, 09:32

By the way, the Generalleutnant mit RDA vom 01.10.1939 (3) was Albrecht Brand.
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