Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
I would like to compile a Rangliste of the Intendanten des Heeres im Generalsrang. The problem is that the Intendatur service was reorganized at some point with the introduction of new rank designations (Generalintendant etc.) and the assignment of RDA. This happened probably in 1939/49 (maybe someone can supply the exact date).
For the pre-war era, I have the Ranglisten of January 1938 and May 1939:
Heeresintendanten
01.01.1936 Friedrich Steffens
01.04.1936 Ernst Pieszczek
01.04.1937 Karl Küthe
01.12.1937 Walter Wandersleben
Gruppen- und Korpsintendanten
01.01.1936 Paul Yelin
01.01.1936 Friedrich Fink
01.07.1936 Hans Marcard
01.07.1936 Franz Lenz
01.07.1936 Hermann Haack
01.07.1936 Curt Drescher
01.07.1936 Wilhelm Weber (in 1939 RL Ministerialdirigent)
06.10.1936 Friedrich Fritsch
06.10.1936 Paul Heufer (in 1939 RL Ministerialdirigent)
01.11.1936 Arthur Meyer
01.01.1937 Fritz Brednow
01.01.1937 Rudolf Balcke (spelled "Bahlke" in GdH, but the RL should know better)
01.03.1937 Rudolf Schreiner
01.10.1937 Walter Boesler
11.10.1937 Franz Kleberger
15.10.1937 Max Hagl
01.12.1937 Walter Reich
01.04.1938 Pauer (Ministerialdirigent)
01.04.1938 Ferdinand Winter
09.05.1938 Curt Paeckel
01.06.1938 Max Dutzmann
01.06.1938 Gerhard Loosch
01.06.1938 Erich Knitterscheid
01.08.1938 Ludwig Vollrath
15.12.1938 Hellmut Scheer
Missing are:
1.) The ÖBH Generalintendanten Hugo Forstner and Max Hevler, who may have been übernommen into the Wehrmacht with generals rank but were retired in late 1938 (note that Karl Jansch was initially NOT übernommen in his former rank).
2.) Arthur Kochanowski, who is said to have been "Generalintendant" (should be Gruppen- or Korpsintendant) in 1936 by GdH, but apparently was retired before January 1938.
3.) Konrad Lau, who is said to have been "Generalstabsintendant" (should be Heeresintendant) in 1936 by GdH, but died in 1937.
4.) The lower (earlier) grades of the four Heeresintendanten listed above (plus Lau), if they ever held such.
For the pre-war era, I have the Ranglisten of January 1938 and May 1939:
Heeresintendanten
01.01.1936 Friedrich Steffens
01.04.1936 Ernst Pieszczek
01.04.1937 Karl Küthe
01.12.1937 Walter Wandersleben
Gruppen- und Korpsintendanten
01.01.1936 Paul Yelin
01.01.1936 Friedrich Fink
01.07.1936 Hans Marcard
01.07.1936 Franz Lenz
01.07.1936 Hermann Haack
01.07.1936 Curt Drescher
01.07.1936 Wilhelm Weber (in 1939 RL Ministerialdirigent)
06.10.1936 Friedrich Fritsch
06.10.1936 Paul Heufer (in 1939 RL Ministerialdirigent)
01.11.1936 Arthur Meyer
01.01.1937 Fritz Brednow
01.01.1937 Rudolf Balcke (spelled "Bahlke" in GdH, but the RL should know better)
01.03.1937 Rudolf Schreiner
01.10.1937 Walter Boesler
11.10.1937 Franz Kleberger
15.10.1937 Max Hagl
01.12.1937 Walter Reich
01.04.1938 Pauer (Ministerialdirigent)
01.04.1938 Ferdinand Winter
09.05.1938 Curt Paeckel
01.06.1938 Max Dutzmann
01.06.1938 Gerhard Loosch
01.06.1938 Erich Knitterscheid
01.08.1938 Ludwig Vollrath
15.12.1938 Hellmut Scheer
Missing are:
1.) The ÖBH Generalintendanten Hugo Forstner and Max Hevler, who may have been übernommen into the Wehrmacht with generals rank but were retired in late 1938 (note that Karl Jansch was initially NOT übernommen in his former rank).
2.) Arthur Kochanowski, who is said to have been "Generalintendant" (should be Gruppen- or Korpsintendant) in 1936 by GdH, but apparently was retired before January 1938.
3.) Konrad Lau, who is said to have been "Generalstabsintendant" (should be Heeresintendant) in 1936 by GdH, but died in 1937.
4.) The lower (earlier) grades of the four Heeresintendanten listed above (plus Lau), if they ever held such.
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Re: Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
Well, I was planning to start a list of the Generalintendanten after 1939 using secondary info from GdH, unithistories.com etc., but after Frech was so kind to post the list of GSInt from the 1942 Rangliste der Wehrmachtbeamten (in the Austrian generals thread), it seems as if nearly all info found there is wrong and, as so often, only the original data tells the truth.
Generaloberstabsintendant
01.03.1945 Franz Kleberger
Generalstabsintendanten
01.01.1936 Friedrich Steffens
01.04.1936 Ernst Pieszczek
01.04.1937 Karl Küthe
01.12.1937 Walter Wandersleben
01.04.1942 Franz Lenz (1)
01.04.1942 Hermann Haack (2)
20.04.1942 Franz Kleberger (ohne RDA)
01.07.1942 Curt Drescher (1)
01.07.1942 Wilhelm Weber (2)
01.07.1942 Friedrich Fritsch (3)
01.07.1942 Karl Jansch (in RL with RDA of 1 July, but without Ordnungsnummer)
xx.xx.19xx Paul Heufer
xx.xx.19xx Arthur Meyer
xx.xx.19xx Rudolf Schreiner (all three listed as 01.11.1941 on unithistories, but they are not in the 1942 RL)
01.09.1944 Walter Boesler
01.10.1944 Friedrich Pauer (1)
01.10.1944 Max Hagl (2)
01.01.1945 Walter Reich
Generaloberstabsintendant
01.03.1945 Franz Kleberger
Generalstabsintendanten
01.01.1936 Friedrich Steffens
01.04.1936 Ernst Pieszczek
01.04.1937 Karl Küthe
01.12.1937 Walter Wandersleben
01.04.1942 Franz Lenz (1)
01.04.1942 Hermann Haack (2)
20.04.1942 Franz Kleberger (ohne RDA)
01.07.1942 Curt Drescher (1)
01.07.1942 Wilhelm Weber (2)
01.07.1942 Friedrich Fritsch (3)
01.07.1942 Karl Jansch (in RL with RDA of 1 July, but without Ordnungsnummer)
xx.xx.19xx Paul Heufer
xx.xx.19xx Arthur Meyer
xx.xx.19xx Rudolf Schreiner (all three listed as 01.11.1941 on unithistories, but they are not in the 1942 RL)
01.09.1944 Walter Boesler
01.10.1944 Friedrich Pauer (1)
01.10.1944 Max Hagl (2)
01.01.1945 Walter Reich
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Re: Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
Dear Askropp,
here are the Generalintendanten from WB 1942:
here are the Generalintendanten from WB 1942:
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Re: Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
Verbindlichsten Dank for your great help!
I think it is reasonable to add at least:
01.12.1942 Heinrich Geier
I think it is reasonable to add at least:
01.12.1942 Heinrich Geier
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Hmm ... I have the suspicion that in 1944 with the creation of the Truppensonderdienst, there was another rearrangement of RDA.
Does anybody have the first names of GInt Dr. Rabus and Reiß?
Does anybody have the first names of GInt Dr. Rabus and Reiß?
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Generalintendant Georg Reiß
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And Generalintendant Hans Rabus
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Many thanks!
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Hello, very interesting
Keilig doesn' t mention Reiß, which assignments did he have 9.39-5.45 ?
Most of the photos of the Gen.Intendanten are still missing, can+will somebody post all or at least some of them here too ? It´d be great....
Thanks, Rossano
Keilig doesn' t mention Reiß, which assignments did he have 9.39-5.45 ?
Most of the photos of the Gen.Intendanten are still missing, can+will somebody post all or at least some of them here too ? It´d be great....
Thanks, Rossano
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A pic of Dr. Hans Rabus is in J. Engelmann “Manstein“; Podzun-Pallas; page 100. There he is apparently Armeeintendant 11.
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Re: Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
Hello,
in the listing WB 42 I noticed :
2. Dr. Friedrich Fink is listed as Generalintendant Heeresgruppe 3.
Heeresgruppe 3 became AOK 8 on 26.8.39. Was Dr. Fink appointed as Armeeintendant 8. Armee ?
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in the listing WB 42 I noticed :
2. Dr. Friedrich Fink is listed as Generalintendant Heeresgruppe 3.
Heeresgruppe 3 became AOK 8 on 26.8.39. Was Dr. Fink appointed as Armeeintendant 8. Armee ?
Thanks
Georges
Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang (TSO ranking)
So, the final ranking (according to unithistories) apparently was:
Generaloberstabsintendant
01.03.1945 Franz Kleberger
Generalstabsintendanten
01.08.1936 Friedrich Steffens
01.08.1938 Karl Küthe
01.04.1940 Walter Wandersleben (1)
01.04.1940 Franz Lenz (2)
01.04.1940 Hermann Haack (3)
01.10.1941 Karl Jansch (1)
01.10.1941 Franz Kleberger (2)
01.10.1941 Curt Drescher (3)
01.10.1941 Wilhelm Weber (4)
01.10.1941 Friedrich Fritsch (5)
01.11.1941 Paul Heufer (1)
01.11.1941 Arthur Meyer (2)
01.11.1941 Rudolf Schreiner (3)
01.09.1944 Walter Boesler
01.10.1944 Friedrich Pauer (1)
01.10.1944 Max Hagl (2)
01.01.1945 Walter Reich
Kleberger can only have been the 01.10.1941 (2). Missing is Pieszczek, who may have been retired before May 1944. He should have ranked between Steffens and Küthe. More difficult are the Generalintendanten:
Generalintendanten
01.10.1934 Paul Yelin (1)
???
???
01.10.1939 Friedrich Fink (4)
01.10.1939 Hans Marcard (5)
???
01.10.1939 Ferdinand Winter (7)
01.10.1939 Otto Stöppler (8)
01.04.1940 Curt Paeckel (1)
01.04.1940 Max Dutzmann (2)
???
01.01.1941 Ludwig Vollrath (2)
01.01.1941 Hellmut Scheer (3)
01.01.1941 Rudolf Balcke (4)
If we assume that Heufer, Meyer and Schreiner were promoted between 01.10.1942 and 01.05.1944, the four GSInt promoted after May 1944 should have been ranked somewhere in this range. Yelins RDA seems to be off the mark, so maybe "1934" is a typo and he ranked 01.10.1939 (1). If so, the four voids should have been our four candidates Boesler, Pauer, Hagl and Reich.
01.12.1943 Gerhard Loosch (1)
01.12.1943 Walter Buschenhagen (2)
01.12.1943 Erich Knitterscheid (3)
01.12.1943 Lorenz Volz (4)
01.05.1944 Bruno Becker (1)
01.05.1944 Raoul Schumacher (1)
01.05.1944 Erwin Schönauer (2)
01.05.1944 Günther Kern (3)
01.05.1944 Hans-Georg von Lilienthal (4)
01.05.1944 Adolf Deyrer (5)
01.05.1944 Werner Pawelitzki (6)
01.05.1944 Oskar Dinkel (7)
01.05.1944 Helmut Wespe (8)
01.05.1944 Ludwig Wurtzbacher (9)
01.05.1944 Heinrich Geier (10)
01.05.1944 Otto Witek (11)
01.05.1944 Robert Böhme (12)
01.09.1944 Franz Biehler (2)
I would assume that Schumacher actually was the missing 01.09.1944 (1). In any case, there were several astonishing reversals in relative rank in 1944. Missing again are Reiß and Rabus.
Generaloberstabsintendant
01.03.1945 Franz Kleberger
Generalstabsintendanten
01.08.1936 Friedrich Steffens
01.08.1938 Karl Küthe
01.04.1940 Walter Wandersleben (1)
01.04.1940 Franz Lenz (2)
01.04.1940 Hermann Haack (3)
01.10.1941 Karl Jansch (1)
01.10.1941 Franz Kleberger (2)
01.10.1941 Curt Drescher (3)
01.10.1941 Wilhelm Weber (4)
01.10.1941 Friedrich Fritsch (5)
01.11.1941 Paul Heufer (1)
01.11.1941 Arthur Meyer (2)
01.11.1941 Rudolf Schreiner (3)
01.09.1944 Walter Boesler
01.10.1944 Friedrich Pauer (1)
01.10.1944 Max Hagl (2)
01.01.1945 Walter Reich
Kleberger can only have been the 01.10.1941 (2). Missing is Pieszczek, who may have been retired before May 1944. He should have ranked between Steffens and Küthe. More difficult are the Generalintendanten:
Generalintendanten
01.10.1934 Paul Yelin (1)
???
???
01.10.1939 Friedrich Fink (4)
01.10.1939 Hans Marcard (5)
???
01.10.1939 Ferdinand Winter (7)
01.10.1939 Otto Stöppler (8)
01.04.1940 Curt Paeckel (1)
01.04.1940 Max Dutzmann (2)
???
01.01.1941 Ludwig Vollrath (2)
01.01.1941 Hellmut Scheer (3)
01.01.1941 Rudolf Balcke (4)
If we assume that Heufer, Meyer and Schreiner were promoted between 01.10.1942 and 01.05.1944, the four GSInt promoted after May 1944 should have been ranked somewhere in this range. Yelins RDA seems to be off the mark, so maybe "1934" is a typo and he ranked 01.10.1939 (1). If so, the four voids should have been our four candidates Boesler, Pauer, Hagl and Reich.
01.12.1943 Gerhard Loosch (1)
01.12.1943 Walter Buschenhagen (2)
01.12.1943 Erich Knitterscheid (3)
01.12.1943 Lorenz Volz (4)
01.05.1944 Bruno Becker (1)
01.05.1944 Raoul Schumacher (1)
01.05.1944 Erwin Schönauer (2)
01.05.1944 Günther Kern (3)
01.05.1944 Hans-Georg von Lilienthal (4)
01.05.1944 Adolf Deyrer (5)
01.05.1944 Werner Pawelitzki (6)
01.05.1944 Oskar Dinkel (7)
01.05.1944 Helmut Wespe (8)
01.05.1944 Ludwig Wurtzbacher (9)
01.05.1944 Heinrich Geier (10)
01.05.1944 Otto Witek (11)
01.05.1944 Robert Böhme (12)
01.09.1944 Franz Biehler (2)
I would assume that Schumacher actually was the missing 01.09.1944 (1). In any case, there were several astonishing reversals in relative rank in 1944. Missing again are Reiß and Rabus.
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Re: Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
I have the following supplement:
Generalintendant von Mudra
Generalintendant Nitek
Does anybody have the first names of von Mudra and Nitek ?
Aisin
Generalintendant von Mudra
Generalintendant Nitek
Does anybody have the first names of von Mudra and Nitek ?
Aisin
Re: Intendanturbeamte des Heeres im Generalsrang
Hello DieterDieter Zinke wrote:A pic of Dr. Hans Rabus is in J. Engelmann “Manstein“; Podzun-Pallas; page 100. There he is apparently Armeeintendant 11.
Dieter Z.
I didn' t receive the corresponding notifications for this topic after my last message above...........
Can You (or can somebody) post Rabus photo here ? I don' t have the book You mention.....
(or maybe from other sources....). I hope other guys will post photos of other Gen.Intendanten too.
Thanks, Rossano
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Well, I would suspect that "Nitek" is Witek.Generalintendant Nitek
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