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Re: Dates of death

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Post by askropp » 21 Feb 2017, 21:45

Can anybody confirm the correct date of death for GM Karl Göbel? Both 27.02.1945 and 02.03.1945 are mentioned.
Göbels Karteikarte says that he died on 27.02.1945. Is there any primary source for 2 March and Esslingen, as given by Bradley in GdH (and possibly Keilig)? I don't think it was easy to get from Ostpreußen to Schwaben in February 1945.
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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Aug 2017, 13:03

Hi all (especially Jake),

anybody happen to know the dates of death of the following persons:

GM Gerhard Reuß, 03.09.1894
GM Otto Meyer, 29.06.1894
GM Wilhelm Viebig, 03.06.1899, I have two contradicting infos - 12. and 16.01.1982
GM Karl Klotz 18.07.1904
Oberst i. G. Helmuth Schultze, 03.08.1905 (Bundeswehr)
Oberst i. G. Karl Friedrich Jessel, 11.01.1905 (Bundeswehr)
Oberstleutnant i. G. Ernst Golling, 05.01.1909 (Bundeswehr)
Oberstleutnant i. G. Jobst von Reden, 18.03.1907


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Re: Dates of death

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Post by JakeV » 20 Aug 2017, 13:37

Wilhelm Viebig † 16.01.1982 in Wiesbaden (according to Nordrhein-Westfalen-Land und Leute 1946-2006: ein biographisches Handbuch by Bernd Haunfelder)
Karl-Josef Klotz † __.02.1999 in München (exact date still not known)
Karl-Friedrich Jessel † 14.07.1989
Ernst Golling † 20.05.1967

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Aug 2017, 19:13

Thanks!

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 11 Oct 2017, 16:52

Dear all,

I have different dates of death for the following persons. Could anybody maybe clarify?

Gen. d. Inf. Kinzel (Eberhard): 11.05.1945, 23.05.1945 or 24.06.1945
Gen. d. Inf. v. Sodenstern (Georg): 20.07.1955 or 22.07.1955

Thanks for any help you may be able to render.

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by askropp » 11 Oct 2017, 17:43

I think there can be no doubt that Kinzel committed suicide to prevent his capture when the Dönitz government and the remnants of the OKW were arrested on 23 May (just as Friedeburg did).

On Sodenstern, I have 20 July, but Jake may have the definitive proof.
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Re: Dates of death

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Post by JakeV » 11 Oct 2017, 18:07

Stauffenberg II wrote: Gen. d. Inf. v. Sodenstern (Georg): 20.07.1955 or 22.07.1955
Leo Kuno Georg von Sodenstern died around 4 a.m. on 22.07.1955 in a hospital in Frankfurt am Main-Bockenheim of complications arising from a probable pulmonary embolism.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 11 Oct 2017, 18:45

Amazing, thank you both. Askropp, I believe you are right.

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by JakeV » 26 Oct 2017, 13:10

Stauffenberg II wrote: GM Otto Meyer, 29.06.1894
Otto Meyer † 25.01.1993 (source: http://www.bdpi.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... g-2016.pdf, S. 231)

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 15 Nov 2017, 10:58

Any taker for Oberstlt. i. G. Hans Wessel von Gyldenfeldt. I have a 1906 DoB with ? but no more data and no DoD?

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 11 Dec 2017, 10:21

Hi, can anybody help re the DoD of following persons:

* Radke (Albert), Oberst i. G., Vizepräsident des BND, 1899-1979
* Schmidt (Walter), Oberst i. G., 13.03.1908
* Staubwasser (Anton), Oberst i. G., 18.10.1908
* Helmdach (Erich), Oberst i. G., 11.09.1903
* Schildknecht (Friedrich), Oberst i. G., 15.06.1906, Ch. d. St. VIII. Armeekorps, captured in Stalingrad 1943
* Dingler (Hans Jürgen), Oberst i. G., BND, 30.03.1904
* Kettler (Hugo), Oberst, 03.01.1895
* Boetzel (Friedrich), Oberst, Bundeswehr, 21.05.1897
* Kratzer (Rolf), Oberst i. G., 03.02.1899
* Friede (Hans), Oberst, Ltr. Allg. Abt. im Allg. Wehrmachtamt/OKW

Thanks in advance
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Re: Dates of death

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Post by askropp » 20 Mar 2018, 22:26

I think there can be no doubt that Kinzel committed suicide to prevent his capture when the Dönitz government and the remnants of the OKW were arrested on 23 May (just as Friedeburg did).
I stand corrected. I was wrong, but I may be forgiven because a gazillion of sources (including Keilig, Bradley and Wikipedia) gives the wrong date. As the excellent article "The suicide of General Kinzel" in After the Battle No. 128 shows, Kinzel and his mistress Erika von Aschoff committed suicide on 25 June 1945 near Idstedt / Holstein. As Kinzel wrote, they could not bear the thought of becoming separated, as his arrest by the Allied authorities was scheduled for the next day.
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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Sep 2018, 11:16

Here some more:

Schindler (Albert), Oberst i. G./Brig. Gen. (Bundeswehr) *19.02.1909
Schoch (Hans), Oberst i. G. *13.06.1898 (München)
Staats (Joachim), Oberst i. G. *28.11.1907
Wiese (Rolf), Oberst i. G. *08.02.1904

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by JakeV » 20 Sep 2018, 13:22

Hello,

Albert Schindler † 07.09.1982
Rolf Wiese † 10.02.1959 in Lemiers bei Aachen

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Re: Dates of death

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Sep 2018, 14:06

Thanks Jake!

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