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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 10:42

Kocjo recently posted this pic in the Documents, Postcards sub-forum:

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Does anybody know the General. He looks very familiar. Furthermore I think he could wear an arm badge on the right arm, i. e. he might be a Gebirgsjäger or Jäger General. And: What is he wearing around his neck?

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Post by Harri » 20 Jun 2003, 11:16

Could he be General Hans Degen?
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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 11:32

Hmm,

I don´t think he is.

There are only a few Generals of the Geb. Jäger/Jäger troops I don´t know. It´s Friedrich Breith and Ernst Schlemmer, both received the DKiG. There are some more (Kress, Kübler J., Utz), but none of them received the DKiG.

Or it´s somebody I know but I don´t recognize. He looks soooo familiar.

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Post by Phil Nix » 20 Jun 2003, 12:04

Its Franz Bohme
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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 12:07

Thanks philmil,

but unfortunately I have to state that it´s definitely not Böhme.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 20:33

He Harri,

you received support from Hans. He is a fan of your Degen theory.

Hmmmh, is it really him? :?

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Post by Glenn2438 » 20 Jun 2003, 22:17

The same general appears in two photographs in Mark Yerger's "Allgemeine-SS on pages 74 and 75. The caption states he is General der Gebirgstruppen Franz Böhme. He is pictured alongside SS-Obergruppenführer Erwin Rösener in 1945.

However:

He does not particularly look like Böhme
He appears to only have one rank star = Generalleutnant
Böhme was in Norway in 1945 as Wehrmacht Commander and GOC 20th Mountain Army

He is wearing the Edelweiß badge on his right arm and that is a Knight's Cross.

I don't think it is Degen.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 22:21

Aaah, I´m not alone. Thank you Glenn. We can now exclude Schlemmer E. and Breith F., because the didn´t receive the Ritterkreuz. Unfortunately I´m now totally short of ideas.

Böhme, oh he is indeed totally wrong. Poor Mark, but he shall overcome.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 23:07

[Cough, Cough] ... worthless post
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Post by Harri » 20 Jun 2003, 23:10

Do you have photos on Böhme and Breith? I think I have seen a photo on Breith (if there was only one Breith) and as far as I remember he didn't look like the man above.

I still bet for Degen. What do we know on him? I think he was Generalmajor while commanding 2.Gebirgs-Division in Northern Finland/Norway since 1.10.1943 at least until turn 1944/45.

Does anyone know when and where this photo was taken? This general probably has two medals around his neck just like Degen has in the photo I sent. Another one could be Finnish?
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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 23:17

as regards Böhme see:
http://www.bridgend-powcamp.fsnet.co.uk ... %F6hme.htm

as regards Breith (F.):
I don´t have a pic of Gen. Lt. Friedrich Breith. But he can be excluded because he didn´t receive the Ritterkreuz.

as regards Degen, Keilig states:
2 Mtn.Div 1.11.43.-6.2.45 (severly wounded). He received both the DKG and the Ritterkreuz. He wore the arm badge. Gen. Lt.: 01.08.1944

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Post by J.N. Houterman » 20 Jun 2003, 23:24

What about this one?

Georg Ritter von Hengl
01.04.1942 Generalmajor
21.01.1943 Generalleutnant [RDA 01.01.1943]
01.01.1944 General der Gebirgstruppe

Decorations:
15.07.1918 kgl. bayer. Militär-Max-Joseph-Orden
25.08.1941 Ritterkreuz
20.06.1944 Deutsches Kreuz in Gold

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Post by Harri » 20 Jun 2003, 23:24

At first sight it could be either Böhme or von Hengl but after a closer look I think it definetely is not any of them. Look at the ears of Böhme and the nose of von Hengl; quite different.

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Post by Stauffenberg II » 20 Jun 2003, 23:31

Exactly my opinion Harri.

I´m on the verge of posting all Mountain Generals in 3 man-blocks, damn.

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Post by JC » 21 Jun 2003, 02:09

I agree, it is neither Böhme nor von Hengl, and Degen is a real stretch. Attached is Friedrich Breith and it's not him either (BTW was he related to Hermann?). Are you sure that is an RK at his throat? In the photo of Degen, what is the decoration under his RK?

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