Various general ID's needed

[Elwyn W]

Hello all,

Could anybody identify these generals?
(1) Manstein picture was from Operation Zitadelle 1943. Some resemblence to Meith. But Meith had DCiG.
(2) Guderian picture was from Pz Lehr901 Pz Grd Lehr Rgt 1943 exercise. General Y could be Marcks?
(3) Model picture was from the Western Front 1944/45 Some resemblence to a skinny version of Busse. But what would Busse be doing here?

Cheers
Freiherr

[J.N. Houterman]

The unknown general on the third photograph is:

Generalleutnant Hans-Kurt Höcker

at the end of thw war commander of the 167th Volksgrenadier Division, also sector commander in Irrlich/Koblenz & Düsseldorf/Köln.

Two pics enclosed for comparison.

Cheers,

Hans

[Waland66]

Hi!

The general on he first picture looks like Kurt von der Chevallerie:



Regards
Paal

http://www.samba66.com

[Stauffenberg II]

Could well be. I think Paal is right. The quite uncommon cap may derive from his command of the 99th Light (later Jäger) Division until 22.10./30.11.1941.

[Elwyn W]

Thanks Hans, Paal and Juergen,

I think you are all spot on. Meanwhile I found this photo of seemingly the same general on the extreme left in the Pz Lehr picture except this time he was with Kluge. Any clue as to who he was?

Cheers
Freiherr

[Glenn2438]

Freiherr,

I think with that battered nose he may well be General der Panzertruppe Heinrich Eberbach.

Regards
Glenn

[J.N. Houterman]

The general on "1.jpg" has NO battered nose, it's just a bad picture. The general next to Von Kluge is Generalleutnant Felix Schwalbe. Enclosed a miniature of them together. Don't ask for a larger version; let me keep some things for myself...

Anyway, 100% sure it's Schwalbe.

The general with the seemingly battered nose on the first picture (x_y_oberst_Guderian_Scholze.jpg) is definitely not Schwalbe.

Cheers,

Hans

[J.N. Houterman]

Second picture, second from the left might be:
Theodor Scherer

Cheers,

Hans

[Elwyn W]

Hi Hans,

The second general from the left does resemble Scherer but it is kind of hard to put him and Georg Scholze on the same SPW! According to the caption, it was a training exercise in the summer of 1943 of Scholze's regiment. So this must be the Infantrie Lehr Rgt which turned into 901 PzGr Lehr Rgt, both of which were commanded by Scholze. Their main area of activity was France. Scherer, on the other hand, seemed to have spent most of his time from 42 to 44 on the Eastren Front.

Cheers
Freiherr

[J.N. Houterman]

Their main area of activity was France. Scherer, on the other hand, seemed to have spent most of his time from 42 to 44 on the Eastren Front.

Hi Freiherr,

I don't think it's as simple as you put it. Lehr-Regiment 901 (mot.), since the summer of 1943 Panzergrenadier-Versuchs-Regiment 901, and since 10 Jan 1944 Panzergrenadier-Lehr-Regiment 901 indeed served on the eastern front as well: 1942/43 as Army Troops in Southern Russia, in Jan 1943 with 8th Italian Army on the Eastern Front, Febr./March with the 19th Panzer Division (Eastern Front). Don't know when exactly they went to the west. If you can't specify a date or a location for the exercise it's impossible to say something for certain, unfortunately. I don't rule out Marcks, but Scherer neither....

Cheers,

Hans

[Elwyn W]

Hi Hans,

Thanks for the interesting info. Unfortunately, looks like neither Marcks nor Scherer. I went back to the original photo in the book -- the general definitely did not have a RK.

Marcks: RK 26.6.41; EK#503 24.6.44
Scherer: RK 20.2.42; EK#92 5.5.42

even though both had spange to their iron cross 2nd class.

Mystery remains. And the first general to his right too.

Cheers
Freiherr


Cheers
Freiherr

[J.N. Houterman]

You certainly have a point there. Who to look for then? Divisional commanders, Guderian's staff? I'm unfortunately no specialist in the Panzerwaffe...

Cheers,

Hans

[Svennie]

From memory I say that Wolfgang Thomale was Guderian's chief of staff as Inspector-General of the Panzerwaffe. I just do not know what Thomale looked like.

Hope this helped
Sven

[J.N. Houterman]

Already figured that out, but Thomale doesn't resemble anyone in the picture. Two small portraits of him can be found at:
http://home.wxs.nl/~j.n.houterman/bio/g ... erT.htm#Th

Cheers,

Hans