Knight's Cross Holders Identification

[malvinas82]

2 holders to ID!

[graveland]

1a Werner Goeritz

[Sinjoorke]

Hello and good morning,
p.87, pic. ELT.jpg is not Abraham, but GenLt. Horst Großmann.
p.195, pic. 44.077.jpg is Ustuf.d.R. Michael Wittmann.
p.195, pic. 56789.jpg , with Utz is Obst. Franz Weller.
p.202, pic. Mölders awarding RK_(www.cimilitaria.com).jpg is Lt. Erich Schmidt RK: 23.07.41
Regards,
Hugo.

[Sinjoorke]

Hello, a few more id's,
p13, pic 59.jpg is Fw. Josef Beck.
p128, pic Teil3.jpg, next to Gerl on the right is Fw. Jungkunst Johann.
p184, pic 1482a.jpg is Fw. Helmut Sinning.
p205, pic RK 211.jpg is Olt. Ferdinand Kuester.
Regards,
Hugo.

[von thoma]

Who is ?
Thank you.

Id: Karl Bock,
21.12.1941 SS-Brigadeführer
27.03.1943 Major der Reserve (mit Wirkung vom 01.01.1943)

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[Denis]

The RKT just above with the big moustache is Karl Bock

KR
Denis

[Denis]

Hello again Denis,
thanks very much for your reflection on the young Pz-man mystery. If I may, I would like to come back once more on the case. I ad here the photo that I was referring to, of Hans-Günther Voigt, with a detail of the afterwards added RK, since he was awarded posthumously. I also don't see a ribbon. It's clear that it is too big, but I wonder if you can clarify why he is waring such a dark (black) uniform as a grenadier, because I don't have such an expertise in that matter? Do you have knowledge how they photograficaly added that RK in those days? In the case of that young Pz-man and in case it was added photograficaly it looks to me a simpler technique than in the case of Voigt, because it is so horizontal and 2-dimentional.
Thanks in advance,
Hugo.

Hello Hugo

about the Voigt picture you have posted, the dark color of the uniform is just due to the poor quality of the B/W photo. However, you can see that even if it is very dark that Voigt's jacket is a typical Feldgrau bluse (see chest pockets) usually wore by all WH/WSS members except hose belonging ot Panzer / Stug. units members. These latter ones usually (and proudly) wear a black (or Feldgrau for Stug) wrapper whose one of main features was to get no Pocket at all.
It is frequent to see crude RK added to posthumous recipients, made either by relatives or even by collectors to pinpoint the fact the depicted soldier was still a coveted and acknowleged RKT.
I have even in my own collection a prewar postcard of Kesselring to which a 'paper'' RK has been glued on to reflect his new award (likely made by a young boys during watime even if I'll have never any certainty).
So adding these RK was frequent; most of time this was made by drawing / painting directly onto the photo (seems to be the case of Voigt here) or by gluing a printed KC from a newspaper.

Thanks to better pics posted by Malvinas (gracias !) I almost sure the sleeve badge on the right is the one attributed to the 23. Pz. Div.

As for the RK of the young Panzer Oblt., it is very hard to say whether it is an addition to the original picture of if it was really wore by the soldier when the photo was taken: my only doubt is that the RK seems a little bit oversized compared to the picture.
It may Worth leaving a post in the cross section of the WAF forum to get opinion from Iron Cross knowledgeable members such as Dietrich Maerz.

Denis

[Denis]

Hello, a few more id's,
p13, pic 59.jpg is Fw. Josef Beck.
p128, pic Teil3.jpg, next to Gerl on the right is Fw. Jungkunst Johann.
p184, pic 1482a.jpg is Fw. Helmut Sinning.
p205, pic RK 211.jpg is Olt. Ferdinand Kuester.
Regards,
Hugo.

Hi again Hugo

Thanks for doing the cleansing!
Bravo for fidning several long searched soldiers (eg Jungkunst or Beck) or correcting old mistakes such as Grossmann

The only correction I would do to your IDs is that the officer with Gen.Major Utz on page 195 is not Franz Weller but Obstlt. Franz Klausgraber (I have another better pic of the same reportage)

Denis

[malvinas82]

2 RKTs to ID! Both in the postwar:

A) SS RKT

B) Unknown RKT from a OdR meeting in the 80's

[Denis]

Hello

Some old IDs already found but not labelled:

p214: Hans Katzenmeier
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1258189

p215: Herbert Kaiser
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1259352

KR
Denis

[Denis]

Some old IDs:

p583: Willy Ritter
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1925629

p582: Gerhard Benack
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1923624

p579:
5= Kurt Röpke
22= Walter Steinbrenner
28= Josef Gollé
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1921531

KR
Denis

[von thoma]

Who is, please ?
Thanks.

Id: Heinrich Wiese

[Denis]

page 301:
Unk RKT01, last pic on the page is Werner Streit
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1376251

KR
Denis

[Denis]

Who is, please ?
Thanks.
Heer RKT.png

Last pic of page 836: this is Heinrich Wiese

KR
Denis

[GWorldmann]

Thanks!


@01 - Id: Alfred-Hermann Reinhardt


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@03 - Id: Alfred-Hermann Reinhardt