ID Please!!!

[FANGIO]

Could anybody ID the SS and LW Officers behind Hitler? Where was this pic taken? Sorry, not a good quality photo.
Regards.

FANGIO

[Max Williams]

The SS officer is Julius Schaub.
Max

[Michael Miller]

Yep, Schaub he is.

At far left with head turned away could be the Führer's Chefpilot, Hans Baur.

Best,
~ Mike

[USAF1986]

Hello! The aircraft is the Grenzmark, Focke-Wulf 200A-0 (S-8 ) Condor, works number 3098, registration number D-ACVH. The Grenzmark entered government service on 30 June 1939 as Hitler’s accompanying aircraft.

In the autumn of 1939, after the outbreak of war, the registration number of Grenzmark was changed to WL-ACVH for a few weeks and then to AC+VH. The Balkenkreuz was also added between the letters. The aircraft was pressed into service as a troop transport for the invasion of Norway with the registration number NK+NM. The former Grenzmark was destroyed in a crash landing at Orel, Russia on 23 December 1941.

Hitler first flew aboard the Grenzmark in early July 1939. In the source listed below, Hitler arrived at the airfield with his Luftwaffe adjutant, Hauptmann Nikolaus von Below, and Julius Schaub. Could this picture have been taken then?

Best regards,
Shawn

SOURCE: Sweeting, C.G. Hitler’s Personal Pilot: The Life and Times of Hans Baur. Brassey’s, Inc., Dulles, Virginia, 2000.

[FANGIO]

Thank you Max & Mike. And thanks Shawn for that great info. Maybe von Below is the Officer behind Schaub.
Regards.

FANGIO

[Max Williams]

Thank you Max & Mike. And thanks Shawn for that great info. Maybe von Below is the Officer behind Schaub.
Regards.

FANGIO

Looks more like von Below in the white cap.
Max

[FANGIO]

Why is he wearing a white cap? Were there some kind of regulations in the use of caps?

FANGIO

[Max Williams]

Why is he wearing a white cap? Were there some kind of regulations in the use of caps?

FANGIO

Summer dress. Note Baur in white summer SS tunic.
Max

[FANGIO]

Thanks Max.

FANGIO

[stalag-vi-f]

This photo was taken on July, 6th, 1939. It is after Hitler`s first flight with the Grenzmark.
Persons: Luftwaffen - Adjutant Nicolaus v. Below, Flugkapitän Hans Baur, Reichsleiter Martin Bormann, Adjutant SS-Führer Julius Schaub and maybe Willi Ruge (last person). I have found it in a book, so the names are right.

[Max Williams]

This photo was taken on July, 6th, 1939. It is after Hitler`s first flight with the Grenzmark.
Persons: Luftwaffen - Adjutant Nicolaus v. Below, Flugkapitän Hans Baur, Reichsleiter Martin Bormann, Adjutant SS-Führer Julius Schaub and maybe Willi Ruge (last person). I have found it in a book, so the names are right.

Don't believe everything you read in books. Bormann is not in this photo.
Max.

[stalag-vi-f]

That`s very interesting.
In another book you can read this:

[....] Fl.Kpt Baur, Oberst von Below, Hitler, SS-Obersturmbannführer Schaub, Major Carcanico, Kommandant des Flughafens Berlin-Tempelhof.

The photo was taken by Walter Frentz (I think, not sure). So there are no names on the backround written. The authors maybe tried to name them and so they did mistakes. Choose one of the examples. At least one must be right

[harmel]

Patricio
Interesting photo,the date given might be wrong,
as Carcanico,is Viktor Carganico as he was promoted
to Obstlt on 1/4/36 and left Tempelhof in Jan 1939.
in the photo you can see hear wears glasses,and
Generalmajor Carganico did wear them.
Regards Harmel

[FANGIO]

Hi Alex, thank you (and the others) for the data. Carganico sounds better, and italian.
Wow, two years since I posted that image, I didn't even remember this post.
Well, thanks again everybody.
Best,

FANGIO

[Max Williams]

That`s very interesting.
In another book you can read this:

[....] Fl.Kpt Baur, Oberst von Below, Hitler, SS-Obersturmbannführer Schaub, Major Carcanico, Kommandant des Flughafens Berlin-Tempelhof.

The photo was taken by Walter Frentz (I think, not sure). So there are no names on the backround written. The authors maybe tried to name them and so they did mistakes. Choose one of the examples. At least one must be right

This one is also wrong. Schaub is wearing SS-Gruppenführer rank insignia.
Max.