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High ranks pic for identification

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Post by Luca » 27 Jul 2002, 10:38

Dear Members,
who re the fighters in the pic?
Was make in Rumania?
What is the big decoration of the last man in the center?
Thank You very much.
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Post by Michael Miller » 27 Jul 2002, 15:59

At left is Romanian dictator Marshal Ion Antonescu; at right, Generalfeldmarschall Erich von Manstein. The German General at right center with Knight's Cross should be identifiable with a little effort on my part or that of another forum member. In addition to the large star decoration on his left breast (which is, presumably, a Romanian award- I'll have to check my books to identify it), he wears the Turkish War Medal (aka "Order of the Iron Half Moon" or "Gallipoli Star") for WW I service in Asia Minor (Turkey, Syria, Iraq, etc.).

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Post by Luca » 06 Aug 2002, 10:47

Dear Mike Miller,
thank You very much for Your precious help.
with friendly
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Post by Vienna » 02 Aug 2004, 21:50

Hello!

An old open question!

The unsecurity for me is the turkish (why not an rumanian?) decoration? I`m not a specialist, but I believe it`s more likely a spanish decoration (in connection with Legion Condor).
First I mean the general in the centre is Gen. Konrad, but under the point of view of decoration I think it is General der Pioniere (later Generaloberst) Erwin Jaenecke (he was in the Legion,also Sperrle, Mölders ....)
What`s your opinion?

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Post by Michael Miller » 02 Aug 2004, 22:52

Vienna,

I believe the award on his left tunic pocket is the Star of the Order of Michael the Brave (Class?)(http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=387). The Turkish War Medal (aka "Order of the Iron Trefoil", aka "Gallipoli Star") appears on his right pocket.

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Post by Vienna » 03 Aug 2004, 13:56

Hello Michael!

Do you know the big award from (later) GFM Sperrle on this picture
(Legion Condor Ceremony 1939)?

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Post by Vienna » 03 Aug 2004, 13:58

Hello Michael!

Do you know the big award from (later) GFM Sperrle on this picture
(Legion Condor Ceremony 1939)?

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Post by Victor » 03 Aug 2004, 15:44

Michael Miller wrote:Vienna,

I believe the award on his left tunic pocket is the Star of the Order of Michael the Brave (Class?)(http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=387).
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No, it isn't.
The Order had no star, only 3 classes and that isn't the 1st class (the only one worn there).

I believe it is the Grand Officer badge of the Order of the Star of Romania.

Btw, this is only the second photo I have seen in which Antonescu is smiling.

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Post by VJK » 03 Aug 2004, 17:54

Hi!

Just for you Victor - a smiling Antonescu. :)

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Post by Victor » 03 Aug 2004, 20:21

These photos show a less seen face of a very controversial personality. Thank you for posting them.

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Post by Michael Miller » 04 Aug 2004, 00:47

Thanks for the correction, Victor.

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Post by Elwyn W » 28 Dec 2004, 23:43

Impossible to make out what's on Manstein's epaulette. But looks to me more like three pips than FM's batons. If so, it was before 01.07.42 and he was commander of 11th Army. So plenty of chances to be welcoming Antonescu to inspect 3rd and 7th Rumanian Corp. Could the general be Franz Mattenklott? RK 23.11.41; DKiG 19.09.42. commander of 42nd Corp.

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Post by Victor » 29 Dec 2004, 09:51

freiherr wrote:So plenty of chances to be welcoming Antonescu to inspect 3rd and 7th Rumanian Corp. Could the general be Franz Mattenklott? RK 23.11.41; DKiG 19.09.42. commander of 42nd Corp.

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The 3rd Corps was never part of the 11th Army. You are probably referring to the Mountain Corps.

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Post by Elwyn W » 29 Dec 2004, 22:13

Bow to your authority. Just quick glance from OOB from over the years.

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Post by Victor » 29 Dec 2004, 22:47

freiherr wrote:Impossible to make out what's on Manstein's epaulette. But looks to me more like three pips than FM's batons. If so, it was before 01.07.42 and he was commander of 11th Army.
If it was so, then it would be in April 1942, when Antonescu made an inspection in Crimea. But since Manstein is wearing the Krim shield, it has to be after July 1942, no?

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