Oberstleutnant Obergethmann & Oberst Stahel

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Oberstleutnant Obergethmann & Oberst Stahel

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Post by Michi » 20 Jun 2005, 21:11

Oberstleutnant Obergethmann, Eduard:
06.1942 – 12.1942: CO of Stb./FlakRgt. 85 (v)
08.1942 – 01.1943: CO of Stb./FlakRgt. 99 (mot.)
So between 20th and 26th November 1942 Obstlt. Obergethmann formed the Kampfverband Obergethmann in Oblivskaja.
BUT which Stb./FlakRgt. did he command before??
Fate of Obergethmann??


Oberst Stahel, Rainer:
25.09.1942 – 28.11.1942: CO of LwFDiv 4
21.05.1943 – 05.06.1943: CO of 22. FlakBrig.
In November 1942 Obst Stahel formed the Gruppe Stahel, which was dissolved some weeks later.
What was he commanding after the Gruppe Stahel.
Fate of Stahel??



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Post by Dieter Zinke » 21 Jun 2005, 11:01

Please have a look:
Franz Thomas / Günter Wegmann:
Die Ritterkreuzträger der Flugabwehrtruppen. Bd. 2: L - Z.
Biblio, Osnabrück, 1991

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Oberst Stahel, Rainer

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Post by JPK » 21 Jun 2005, 11:12

Have a look at:
http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/WEHRM ... AINER.html
It is Michael Miller's Axis Biographical Research just on top of this page

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Post by Michi » 21 Jun 2005, 18:43

Okay, we can tick off Oberst Stahel.
But a new problem came up:
Oberst Stahel:
Commander of the 99th Flak-Regiment (15 Apr 1942 - 25 Sep 1942)
Oberstleutnant Obergethmann:
Commander of the 99th Flak-Regiment (Aug 1942 - Jan 1943)
or
Commander of the 85th Flak-Regiment (Jun 1942 - Dec 1942)


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Post by Phil Nix » 21 Jun 2005, 19:05

Acccording to Michael Holms WW2.dk site Stahel was commander 15.4.42 - 8.1942 followed by Obergethmann 8.1942 - 22.1.43
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Post by JPK » 21 Jun 2005, 19:13

In "Mehner"
Flak Regiment 85 (V)
00.00.42-(06.42) Obstlt Obergehtmann
00.12.42-(02.44) Oberst Kluge,Willy

Flak Regiment 99 (mot)
15.04.42-00.08.42 Oberst Stahel
00.05.42-00.01.43 Obstlt Obergehtmann

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Re: Oberstleutnant Obergethmann & Oberst Stahel

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Post by Heimatschuss » 27 Feb 2016, 23:12

Hello,

here's an interesting tidbit about the past of Oberst Obergethmann. In the early 1930s he worked in the central sales office of Austrian steel producer Österreichisch-Alpine Montangesellschaft in Vienna. After the failed Nazi putsch of July 1934 the Austrian government forced his employer to sack Obergethmann because he was known to be a believing National Socialist. Obergethmann returned/emigrated to Germany where he soon persued a military career.

Does anyone know if Obergethmann held German or Austrian nationality between 1918 and 1934?
Eduard Obergethmann.JPG
Eduard Obergethmann.JPG (130.76 KiB) Viewed 600 times
Source: Werkszeitung Reichswerke AG Alpine Montanbetriebe 'H.G.'; 17.Jahrgang (1943); Heft 3-4, p.13
http://www.anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/a ... 29&size=45

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Re: Oberstleutnant Obergethmann & Oberst Stahel

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Post by askropp » 28 Feb 2016, 11:12

Of course they do not mention that Obergethmann was already a Soviet prisoner when the article appeared ...
There are times in history when staying neutral means taking sides.

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