Who are these generals? Rommel?
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Who are these generals? Rommel?
Who is the other general in the middle in the first photo?
Does anyone know if the general on the left in the second photo is Rommel, and could the one on the right be Rundstedt before he was made GFM?
Very many thanks
Does anyone know if the general on the left in the second photo is Rommel, and could the one on the right be Rundstedt before he was made GFM?
Very many thanks
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Re: Who are these generals? Rommel?
It's neither.trbooks wrote: Does anyone know if the general on the left in the second photo is Rommel, and could the one on the right be Rundstedt before he was made GFM?
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There has already been a post on the first photo. I have deleted the photos in the old post.
See http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ls&start=0
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See http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... ls&start=0
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In the original post, Harmel identified the general in the centre as Christian Hansen. Hansen was born in 1885 which would make our man above between 55 and 60 years old! Somehow, I cannot believe he's that old and I therefore have doubts that this ID is correct. How about Joachim Lemelsen? It certainly looks like him.
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Not so direct in my opinion. Dieter, if you think that looks like Hansen, then I must be Bob Hope!Dieter Zinke wrote:Direct hit, Chief eagle-eye !!ritterpanzer wrote:Hi,
My opinion (left to right): Generalleutnant Fritz-Georg von Rappard, General der Artillerie Christian Hansen and General der Gebirgstruppe Karl Eglseer. What do you think?
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Now take a look at Lemelsen.
http://www.geocities.com/%7Eorion47/WEH ... ACHIM.html
http://www.geocities.com/%7Eorion47/WEH ... ACHIM.html
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Max,Max History wrote:Now take a look at Lemelsen.
http://www.geocities.com/%7Eorion47/WEH ... ACHIM.html
Hansen is quite safe, and this is never Lemelsen. Unfortunately my big collection with pics showing both is disappeared in the abyss of my editor's archive.
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Sorry, but I don't agree. That is not Hansen in the middle. Comparing Hansen's picture above with the man in the middle, they look nothing like each other. It might not be Lemelsen, but they are much more alike.Dieter Zinke wrote:Max,Max History wrote:Now take a look at Lemelsen.
http://www.geocities.com/%7Eorion47/WEH ... ACHIM.html
Hansen is quite safe, and this is never Lemelsen. Unfortunately my big collection with pics showing both is disappeared in the abyss of my editor's archive.
Dieter
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Dieter,
I continue thinking that he´s general der artillerie Christian Hansen. Why? For two reasons: It seemed physicist and and what seems to be the RK des kgl. preuss. Hohenzollern and the ostmedaille ribbon below his RK. He was awarded with the two during his military career.
Best regards,
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I continue thinking that he´s general der artillerie Christian Hansen. Why? For two reasons: It seemed physicist and and what seems to be the RK des kgl. preuss. Hohenzollern and the ostmedaille ribbon below his RK. He was awarded with the two during his military career.
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I accept all that, but look at them. How can anyone say they are the same man? They look totally different...not just dissimilar....but totally different. The only explanation is that one of the photos does not show Hansen. If Gareth's photo is indeed Hansen, then my one does not show him. The structure of the face is totally different.ritterpanzer wrote:Dieter,
I continue thinking that he´s general der artillerie Christian Hansen. Why? For two reasons: It seemed physicist and and what seems to be the RK des kgl. preuss. Hohenzollern and the ostmedaille ribbon below his RK. He was awarded with the two during his military career.
Best regards,
Pedro.
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I would put my money on von Rappard. But for the life of me I cannot put Eglseer and von Rappard in the same theatre of war.... unless von Rappard was at least a GenLt ........ can we tell whether there was pip there, Max? (nor von Rappard (mainly Mitte), Hansen (mainly Nord) and Eglseer (mainly Süd, then Nord) either)
IF von Rappard was a GenLt here, then the officer to his left could be Hossbach, von Rappard's LVI Corp commander in Sep 43 (But before 11.09.43 when Hossbach got his EL) ... it looks like Hossbach from the JC pic -- the one with Model at the Axis Biographical Research site. ( von Rappard's other corp commanders in first half of 43 were Hans Schmidt (IX Corp), Zörn/von Esebeck/Gollnick (XLVI Corp), Lemelsen (XLVII Corp) and Schaal (LVI Corp). Just like Hansen, our general in question just didn't have the damn Hitler or Clark Gable style moustache!! And I don't think it was Lemelsen either)
By Sept 43, Eglseer was commanding 114 JG Div under XV Corp/ 2 Pz AOK/HrGR E/F in Croatia ... how does this link us back to von Rappard in the River Desna area? many sources suggest it was XV Corp. I couldn't find a XV Corp in mid/late 43.
Cheers
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IF von Rappard was a GenLt here, then the officer to his left could be Hossbach, von Rappard's LVI Corp commander in Sep 43 (But before 11.09.43 when Hossbach got his EL) ... it looks like Hossbach from the JC pic -- the one with Model at the Axis Biographical Research site. ( von Rappard's other corp commanders in first half of 43 were Hans Schmidt (IX Corp), Zörn/von Esebeck/Gollnick (XLVI Corp), Lemelsen (XLVII Corp) and Schaal (LVI Corp). Just like Hansen, our general in question just didn't have the damn Hitler or Clark Gable style moustache!! And I don't think it was Lemelsen either)
By Sept 43, Eglseer was commanding 114 JG Div under XV Corp/ 2 Pz AOK/HrGR E/F in Croatia ... how does this link us back to von Rappard in the River Desna area? many sources suggest it was XV Corp. I couldn't find a XV Corp in mid/late 43.
Cheers
Freiherr
Ok one more time.....
It cannot be von Rappard because he was commanding 7 Div for a long time ... it did belong to 2 PZ AOK but only during the Kursk offensive. Why would he have anything to do with Eglseer? Therefore, I found the following common thread. Following Kursk 2 Pz AOK operated in the Südost theatre.
From right to left:
GenLt Karl Eglseer, Kmdr 114 JG Div/15 Mtn Korp/2 Pz AOK
Gen Hans Dehner, Kmdr 69 Korp/2 Pz AOK
GenMj Josef Kübler, Kmdr 118 JG Div/21 Mtn Corp/2 Pz AOK .... GENMJ, Gbgr sleeve badge, no RK. Metalic framed glasses
Enlcosed are two Dehner pics for comparison. Maybe Hans could share with us the tiny one I have posted here. It looks very similar to the general in the center.
Cheers
Freiherr
It cannot be von Rappard because he was commanding 7 Div for a long time ... it did belong to 2 PZ AOK but only during the Kursk offensive. Why would he have anything to do with Eglseer? Therefore, I found the following common thread. Following Kursk 2 Pz AOK operated in the Südost theatre.
From right to left:
GenLt Karl Eglseer, Kmdr 114 JG Div/15 Mtn Korp/2 Pz AOK
Gen Hans Dehner, Kmdr 69 Korp/2 Pz AOK
GenMj Josef Kübler, Kmdr 118 JG Div/21 Mtn Corp/2 Pz AOK .... GENMJ, Gbgr sleeve badge, no RK. Metalic framed glasses
Enlcosed are two Dehner pics for comparison. Maybe Hans could share with us the tiny one I have posted here. It looks very similar to the general in the center.
Cheers
Freiherr
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