Max,Max Williams wrote:I hope this thread is not locked. I'm not taking sides, but I think the discussion is very interesting and Hecht has made some valid points. Dieter's links must also be considered, but I agree they cannot be treated as academic sources and are therefore not facts. I'm interested to see how the two differing interpretations of the laws are resolved. Please continue.
Max.
I do respect a lot Dieter and Marcus, and must be clear that I don't take sides also, I actually very rarely do, I cannot stand neonazi brainless, but label the Ulrichsberg simply as "Nazi" is something you cannot take seriously IMHO.
The Austrian Bundesheer attended the meeting for something like 20 years, before stop in 2009 due to the presence of few neonazi retards: so, this mean that for almost 20 years the meeting was considered not "Nazi" at all, and it still does, since the meeting is totally legal and wasn't banned in any case.
Don't forget that the Bundesheer put a denkmal-named plate at the memorial site at Ulrichsberg, nextby the WSS and FJ ones.
I must also remember that numbers of personalities from the local and general Austrian Government attended the meeting for years, and still does, and we are not talking about right-wing politicians only, but from all sides: for example the Präsident der Ulrichsberg-Gemeinschaft was Rudolf Gallob, a former Social Democratic (SPÖ) deputy governor of Carinthia, and label him as "Nazi" tout court is simple unacceptable for a serious researcher.
I also have to say that I couldn't see any pictures related to the Ulrichsberg where to spot any swastika flag, swastika patch, swastika pin or else, so, it may be considered a meeting attended by WWII veterans and few right-wing\neonazis idiots, but sure not a "Nazi and Illegal" event, since it is organized by organizations recognized\supported by the Austrian Government and the Austrian Police.