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11. PD / "Hube Pocket"

Postby JC on 27 Apr 2011 18:07

Most, if not all general sources about the operations of 1st Pz.Army in March '44 in what became known as "Hube's Pocket", list the 11. Pz.Div. as being a part of LIX. A.K. and trapped with other units in the pocket. However, Die Deutschen Divisionen, Band 3, clearly indicates that the division was withdrawing well southeast of the pocket at the time: 3/13 - Gayvoron, 3/25 - Balta, 3/27 - Rybniza, 3/31 - Mokra, to the Dnestr River near Kischinev on 4/9.

Does someone have the divisional history or another authoritative source that can pin this down for me?

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Re: 11. PD / "Hube Pocket"

Postby hucks216 on 29 Apr 2011 09:56

According to Fire Brigades by Kamen Nevenkin (ISBN:978-092199-1922) for that period the division was split into 2 groups with one battlegroup being assigned to 1- Pz.-Armee...

Pages 293/294...
"On 4 and 5 March the Red Army launched two massve offensives; near Shepetovka (Proskurov-Chernovtsy Operation) and Zvenigorodka (Uman-Botoshany Operation) respectively. The division was split into two groups. The main body was part of 8 Armee. On 7 March it was in action near Talnoie. It was unable to halt the enemy and from 12 March began to retreat to the south towards Pervomaisk.
One battle group was part of 1- Pz.-Armee. On 8 March it was in action near Nikolaiev (northwest of Proskurov) under the command of III. Pz.-Kps. [on the same day part of it was in action near Letichev (east of Proskurov) under the command of XXIV. Pz.-Kps.] The Germans fought bravely and by 12 March managed to check the enemy advance. On 21 March the Soviets resumed their offensive and the battle group of 11. Pz.-Div. began to retreat from Nikolaev area to the south in the direction of Iarmolintsy (southwest of Proskurov).
By mid-March the remnants of the division crossed the Bug River at Pervomaisk. Some of its units continued to retreat to the southwest while the others (consolidated into Kpf.Gr 'Wartenberg') on 17 March were in defense north of Pervmaisk. By 22 March 11. PD was deployed near Balta.... The units offered fierce resistance and thus covered the retreat of the bulk of the German forces. From 28 March it continued to withdraw to the south and by 3 April occupied positions north of Dubosary.... 11. PD remained in defense between Dubosary and Orgeyev (Orhei) (north of Kishinev) until the beginning of May.
Meanwhile on 26 March the entire 1. Pz.-Armee (including Kpf.Gr./11 Pz.Div) was surrounded in Kamenets-Podolski area. The encircled forces (1. Pz.-Armee) launched a break out to the west (Hube's Wandering Pocket). During this action the battle group was attached to 16. Pz.-Div. On 6 April Hube's wandering pocket reached the German positions near Buchach (northeast of Stanislav). By 9 April Kpf.Gr. 11. Pz.-Div. was in defence near Dzuryn (southeast of Buchach). On 14 April the units of the division that were under the command of H.Gr. Nordukraine were ordered to withdraw from the front and assemble near Lwow (Lemberg). From there they were to be transferred to Bessarabia to rejoin their parent division.
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Re: 11. Pz.Div. / "Hube Pocket"

Postby JC on 29 Apr 2011 13:35

Hello Hucks216 and thanks for that. Two separate KG's from the division would go a long way toward explaining the situation. Does it give any indication as to which parts of the division were in each KG, or who might have been in command?

Thanks again Hucks216, and thanks to Kamen Nevenkin too. I have heard good things about this book but haven't had a chance to read it.

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Re: 11. PD / "Hube Pocket"

Postby hucks216 on 29 Apr 2011 16:35

No, afraid not. You might need to obtain one of the unit history books for that sort of information or maybe another member has the information in their files.
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