Inf.Div. neuer Art and 44. Orders, dates and content?

[schwarzermai]

Hello Piet

thank you! Trupp 18 was mot.?

Uwe

[Piet Duits]

Uwe,

From what I know, yes.
But, since these Trupps were so small, it's only 1 or 2 vehicles (from the top of my head, without checking the KStN itself)

[RandJS]

Dear Piet and Gary,

Thanks for the responses, If you have anything on 12 Inf/VGD I'd appreciate it! That is my main area of interest.

My original post contains a typo: Sigs Bttln should be 379.

Thanks again,
Rand

[Gary Kennedy]

There are a few different formats concerning VG Div organisation that affect the overall look. A rough guide might be;

Div HQ (plus Map and MP dets); 217
Three Inf Regts (total); 5565
Fus Coy; 200
Atk Bn; 563 (assuming Bn HQ, 12 towed atk guns, Stug unit and 3.7-cm Flak Coy)
Arty Regt; 1744? (I've no real confidence in that figure...)
Pio Bn; 430 (assuming two Bicycle Pio Coys)
Sig Bn; 379
Replacement Bn; 925 (plus Battle School)
Div Services; 1045

If there were a full Fus Bn rather than a single Coy, and if the Pio Bn had three Coys, the figures would change.

Gary

[RandJS]

Hi All,

The above discussion mentions the Inf Regts totaling 5961 men. Can anyone offer a breakdown of how the men were distributed? How many men in Reg HQ, Bttln HQ, Inf Co's, Hy Weapons Co, IG Gun Co and PzJgr Co?

Thanks
Rand

[Gary Kennedy]

RHQ - 24
Staff Coy - 197 (incl 32 Sigs Pl, 73 Pio Pl, 31 Mtd/Bicycle Pl)
Inf Gun Coy - 184 (incl 36 per Lt Pl and 39 Hvy Pl)
Atk Coy - 166 (incl 33 in the Hvy Atk Pl and 48 in each RPzB Pl)

Bn HQ - 77 (17 HQ, 25 Sigs, 35 Tns)
Hvy Coy - 205 (20 HQ, 55 HMG Pl, 66 8-cm Mrtr Pl, 47 12-cm Mrtr Pl, 17 Tns)
Rifle Coy - 142 (12 HQ, 18 HMG sec, 33 in each Rifle Pl, 13 Tns)

That's based on the May44 Gren Bn and associated Regtl KStNs.

Gary

[RandJS]

Perfect, Gary. Exactly what I was looking for, and the date is perfect as well.

Many thanks,
Rand

[RandJS]

Gary,

Sorry to be a pest, but would you have the same breakdown for the Div Services mentioned as 1459/1455 men?

Many thanks
Rand

[Gary Kennedy]

HQ Div Supply Tps - 41
Tpt Coy (120-ton, lorried) - 114
Tpt Sqn (horse-drawn) - 170
Supply Coy - 117

Wksp Coy - 137

HQ, Provisioning Bn - 19
Bake Coy - 100
Butch Coy - 54
Rations Coy - 64

Med Coy - 187
Med Coy (Mot) - 205
Amb Coy - 77

Vet Coy - 156

Post - 18

Total, Div Services - 1459 (1455 if Div HQ included certain men from the HQ of the Prov Bn, which seems to have been expected)

[RandJS]

Hi Gary

Beautiful, that's it. Thank you very much for the help.

Rand