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Panzer-Beute-Kompanie (E)

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Post by reinaart » 03 Jul 2015, 18:28

I have some questions regarding this unit. I also posted my query and some pics here :

http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/58212-p ... ompanie-e/

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Post by tigre » 16 Jul 2016, 22:09

Hello to all :D; a little more......................................

The Kreuzer Pz Kw MK IV 744 (e).

The B.E.F. lost in France some 57 tanks Cruiser MK IV and 8 MK A, a number of them (2 platoons) were integrated in the Beute-Pz-Kp (e) which was disbanded in February 1941. The cruisers tanks were then attached to the Pz Abt. (Flamm) 100, which still on June 22, 1941 (beginning of Barbarossa) had 9 MK IV 744 (e) in service .................

Sources: Waffen Arsenal 137 - Beutepanzer unterm Balkenkreuz, Amerikanische und englische Kampfpanzer.
http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/58212-p ... ompanie-e/

Any idea about the emblem of the white rhino? TIA. Cheers. Raul M 8-).
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British tanks Kreuzer Pz Kw MK IV 744 (e) with the emblem of a white rhino................................ .
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Post by jpz4 » 16 Jul 2016, 23:16

The white rhino is the symbol of the 1st Armoured Division (British)
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30071857

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Post by tigre » 17 Jul 2016, 00:37

Thank you very much for your quick reply :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by tigre » 22 Jul 2016, 21:48

Hello to all :D; a little more......................................

The Kreuzer Pz Kw MK IV 744 (e).

Here we can already see the tanks with new tactical signs and recognition signals.................

Sources: Waffen Arsenal 137 - Beutepanzer unterm Balkenkreuz, Amerikanische und englische Kampfpanzer.
http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/A1 ... MkII-2.htm

Cheers. Raul M 8-).
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In the foreground the Pz Kw II Ausf D/E (flamm) and behind some Pz Kw II Ausf. A/B/C and tanks Pz Kw 744 MK IV (e) of the Pz. Abt. (Flamm) 100.................................
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A Pz Kw 744 MK IV (e) with the emblem of the 18. Pz and the large white letter G.....................................
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Here with the emblem of the Pz. Abt. (Flamm) 100; interesting the towing bar behind.......................................
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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 23 Jul 2016, 12:54

Raul, did you also notice the fact that the tanks have had German tracks added in place of their original British tracks ? And of course they belong to Flame Thrower Battalion 100 with its Flamingo Tanks rather than Panzer II D/E's. The A13's were later transferred to 18 PD when 100 was disbanded.
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Post by tigre » 23 Jul 2016, 14:20

Hello Alan :D; nope, did not note that tracks' change. Of course were Flamingo, I should said better, built upon chassis of the Pz Kw II D/E. Anyway thank you very much for all those data :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by tigre » 27 Jul 2016, 16:58

Hello to all :D; a little more......................................

The Kreuzer Pz Kw MK IV 744 (e).
did you also notice the fact that the tanks have had German tracks added
Alan may be the first picture shows that action............

Sources: Waffen Arsenal 137 - Beutepanzer unterm Balkenkreuz, Amerikanische und englische Kampfpanzer.
http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/uk/A1 ... MkII-2.htm

Cheers. Raul M 8-).
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Overall view of the Pz. Abt. (Flamm) 100; in the foreground a Pz Kw 744 MK IV (e) while changing one of its tracks (a German ones?) .................................
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Top view of a Pz Kw 744 MK IV (e) in the street of a town .......................................
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Post by reinaart » 27 Jul 2016, 19:39

Hi Raul,

The pics you posted were taken in Goslina Murowana Poland. The last pic was taken in Zaamslag Holland. I think the pic of the track change shows at least a length of German tracks with open guide horns (visible in a better copy of the pic) whereas the British tracks had solid guide horns. Some of the buildings in the period pics can still be recognised in present day street view images.The second building on the left with the balcony :

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The house with at least five chimneys and two dormer windows in the roof, featuring in many of the period pics (unfortunately the trees obscure much of the building and the fence has been replaced by a solid stone wall) :

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Kind regards,

Arjan

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Post by tigre » 28 Jul 2016, 00:08

Hello Arjan :D; thank you very much for the info, better pics and the then and now photos :thumbsup: . Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by Hauptmann Holston » 01 Aug 2016, 22:39

:thumbsup: Threads like this are what make AHF my favorite forum for WWII information!

Thanks to you gentlemen who post all historic photos, as well to those who go out and take present photos to post. The then and now comparisons are especially intriguing.
And all the info in between.

Thanks so much from us who live half a world away.
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"Tanks"
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