KStN for German Headquarters

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KStN for German Headquarters

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Post by Jeff Leach » 11 Feb 2017, 11:40

Are the 1939 - 1942 KStNs for German divisions, corps (Armeekorps) and army (Armee-Oberkommando) available anywhere? The divisional headquarters might have been discussed on this list but I couldn't find them.

I am working with some corps and army Offizerstellungbesetzung, which I am trying to place the officers in their proper positions.

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Post by Leo Niehorster » 12 Feb 2017, 11:41

Here's the ones I have found:

KStN 10, dated 15.11.40: Pz.A.O.K. (Headquarters, Panzer Army)
KStN 12, dated 01.10.37: Korps.Kdo. (Headquarters, Army Corps)
KStN 12, dated 01.03.42: Gen.Kdo. (Headquarters, Army Corps)
KStN 15, dated 01.03.42: Gen.Kdo.(mot) (Headquarters, Motorized Army Corps)
KStN 15, dated 01.03.42: Gen.Kdo.Pz.Korps (Headquarters, Panzer Corps)

KStN 21, dated 01.05.40: Kdo.Inf.Div. (Headquarters, Infantry Division)
KStN 21, dated 01.11.41: Kdo.Inf.Geb. und le.Div. (Headquarters, Infantry, Mountain, and Light Divisions)
KStN 23, dated 28.08.40: Kdo.Inf.Div.(mot) (Headquarters, Motorized Infantry Division)
KStN 51, dated 28.08.40: Kdo.Pz.Div. (Headquarters, Panzer Division)
KStN 51, dated 01.11.41: Kdo.Inf.Div.(mot) & Pz.Div. (Headquarters, Motorized Infantry and Panzer Divisions)

All together over 100 pages.
Red: German-Russian (Available online from the Russian-German project.)
Green: NARA (Available online from Sturmpanzer.)
The others are available from the BA-MA, but only on microfiches.


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Post by Jeff Leach » 12 Feb 2017, 15:41

Thanks Leo,

I found about the same information at http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/kstn/kstnmain.htm. All I am really trying to do if put the names found in the 'Kriegsrangliste' in some kind of order.

I've looked at NARA FMS P139a-c, 'German Headquarters Staffs' and it meantions two German manuals, "Manual on General Staff Service During War" and "The Supply Services of the Field army".

Do you know the titles in German? Can they be found in digital form anywhere?

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Post by GregSingh » 13 Feb 2017, 23:53

H.Dv.g 90 Versorgung des Feldheeres
H.Dv.g 92 Handbuch für den Generalstabsdienst im Kriege

Both should be online, we found H.Dv.g 90 in German Documents in Russia a while ago. It's on the Forum somewhere...

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Post by Jeff Leach » 14 Feb 2017, 08:06

Thanks for all the tips
GregSingh wrote:Both should be online, we found H.Dv.g 90 in German Documents in Russia a while ago. It's on the Forum somewhere...
Unfortunately, it is a Russian translation.

I got the brillant idea to look in the NARA T283 record guide

T283 R33 - H.Dv.g. 90
T283 R136 - H.Dv.g. 92 part II
T283 R138 - H.Dv.g. 92 part I
T283 R146 - H.Dv.g. 92 parts I & 2

none of which appear to be digitized yet.

Also notice that T283 119 - 126 are FrStN and KStn collections, maybe the army headquarter is among them. These are supposely all digitzed and available somewhere. Looking through the rolls I already have, these look like the material Leo was referring to.

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Post by Eugen Pinak » 14 Feb 2017, 11:12

Jeff Leach wrote:Also notice that T283 119 - 126 are FrStN and KStn collections, maybe the army headquarter is among them. These are supposely all digitzed and available somewhere. Looking through the rolls I already have, these look like the material Leo was referring to.
FYI, Roll 119 has only _Fr_StNs, though it has peace-time TO&Es for HQs. Roll 123 has no TO&Es for HQs.

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Post by Jeff Leach » 18 Feb 2017, 12:52

Can someone post a link to the

KStN 10, dated 15.11.40: Pz.A.O.K. (Headquarters, Panzer Army) at GermanDocsInRussia

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