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Re: Let's build 12. SS-PzDiv?

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Post by Ste » 10 Sep 2014, 14:15

Ste wrote:Hi!Because my interest in that division is high, I also want to give my help in re-building the organization of the 12th SS.
Throught various research I was able to compile this; it's far from complete and I think that it's not 100% correct,any help,add and correction is welcome!



I Btl.
Btl Kdr. Stubaf Krause
Adjutant Ustuf Walter Holzel
Ordonnanz Offz.
Verwaltungsfuhrer Ostuf Klunder
Tr. Artz Unterartz Jesnaniadt
TFK Ustuf Forster

1. Kp Hstuf Kurt Eggert
USTUF GROSS
Oscha Friedrich Hahn
2. Kp. Ltn Sauer KIA 12.6.44/Ostuf Siegfried Gröschel
3. Kp. Ostuf Düvel
Ostuf Baumgart ?
Hscha/Ustuf Otto Kaiser
4. Kp. Ostuf Alois Hartung
Pak Zug Oscha Erich Wolgemuth
Is Hans Groß, born 9.1.1921?

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Ustuf. Hans Gross 1./SS-PzGren.Rgt.26

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 10 Sep 2014, 17:05

Ustuf. Hans Gross

B:9.1.21
Ustuf. 1./SS-PGR.26 6.44
Uscha. 1.SS-Pz.Div 6.43


Ste, I got the same date of birth too from a LSSAH transferred list June 1943 to the 12.SS


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Re: Let's build 12. SS-PzDiv.?

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Post by Ste » 10 Sep 2014, 19:38

So I guess he's him.Thank you mate!

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4 SS-Pz.Jg.Abt.12 soldiers died on 26.5.44

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 12 Sep 2014, 10:19

Auf der Fahrt von Nogent-le-Roi nach Chartres wurde der PKW des SS-Ostuf. Roeseler (Verw.Fhr.) mit SS-Hscha. Rademacher, SS-Oscha. Ringat und SS-Mann Stascheit um 17.00 Uhr durch Bombentreffer total zerstört. Die 4 Insassen fanden auf der Stelle den Tod.

On the trip from Nogent-le-Roi Chartres the cars of the SS was Ostuf. Roeseler (Verw.Fhr.) With SS-Hscha. Rademacher, SS Oscha. Ringat and SS-man Stascheit at 17.00 clock totally destroyed by bombing. The four occupants were on the point of death.

Source:Tätigkeitsbericht der SS-Pz.-Jg.-Abt. 12 HJ ab 6.Februar 1944


Ostuf. Karl Roeseler
B:28.2.11 Magdeburg
Died:26.5.44 Chartres
Ostuf. Verw.Fhr, SS-PzJg.Abt.12 5.44
Ostuf. 1.SS-Pz.Div 4.43
SS:172955 Ostuf:20.4.43

SS-Hscha. Erich Rademacher
B:29.5.11 Breslau
Died:26.5.44 Chartres
Hscha. Stb,SS-PzJg.Abt.12 5.44

SS-Oscha. Heinz Ringat
B:3.8.03 Essen
Died:26.5.44 Chartres
Oscha. Stb,SS-PzJg.Abt.12 5.44

SS-Schutz. Hans Stascheit
B:27.4.26 Damerau
Died:26.5.44 Chartres westl.Paris
Schutz. Stb,SS-PzJj.Abt.12 5.44
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Strm. Ernst Saure Stb,SS-PzJg.Abt.12

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 12 Sep 2014, 10:56

Nach der Versetzung der SS-Pz.-Jg.-Abt 1 LSSAH zur 12. SS-Pz.-Div. verlegt die Abteilung ab dem 6.2.1944 im Bahntransport ab dem Bahnhof Wolocisk / Ukraine nach Leopoldsburg / Belgien. Während des Transports kommt es am 12.2.1944 auf der Bahnstrecke zwischen Spiencourt und Arrency / in der Nähe von Longwy zu einem Unglücksfall, bei dem die SS-Sturmmänner Saure und von Chamier ums Leben kommen - 8 weitere Angehörige der SS-Pz.-Jg.-Abt. werden verletzt. Vier der Verletzten werden in das Lazarett nach Verdun eingeliefert, die beiden gestorbenen Sturmmänner am 17.2.1944 mit militärischen Ehren auf dem Heldenfriedhof in Verdun beigesetzt.

Source:Tätigkeitsbericht der SS-Pz.-Jg.-Abt. 12 HJ ab 6.Februar 1944

Strm. Ernst Saure
B:10.2.12
Died:12.2.44 grave:Andilly
Strm. Stb,SS-PzJg.Abt.12 2.44
Strm. Stb,SS-PzJg.Abt.1 1.44

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Strm. Adolf Sass Werkstattzug,SS-PzJg.Abt.12

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 12 Sep 2014, 11:01

* 2.7.1944/21.00 Uhr: Auf einer Fahrt mit dem Fahrrad vom Ia-Geschäftszimmer zum Werkstattzug verunglückte der zweite Ia-Schreiber, SS-Strm. Saß, kurz vor dem Werkstattzug. Er wurde von Männern des Nachrichtenzuges geborgen und sofort mit dem Sankra ins Revier gebracht.
3.7.1944/08.30 Uhr: Um 08.30 Uhr verstarb der SS-Strm. Saß an den am Vortage erlittenen Verletzungen durch eine plötzlich eingetretene Gehirnblutung. 11.00 Uhr: Durch SS-Uscha. Herting wird der SS-Strm. Saß nach Chartres überführt und in der Leichenhalle aufgebahrt. ...
5.7.1944/11.00 Uhr: Um 11.00 Uhr erfolgt die Beisetzung des SS-Strm. Saß auf dem Ehrenfriedhof in Chartres. Die Grabrede hielt der SS-Hstuf. Siegert. Von der Abteilung wurde ein Ehrenzug unter Führung des SS-Hscha. Straif gestellt.

Source:Tätigkeitsbericht der SS-Pz.-Jg.-Abt. 12 HJ ab 6.Februar 1944

Strm. Adolf Sass
B:23.8.07 Hamburg
Died:3.7.44 Nogent le Roi
Strm. Werkstattzug,SS-PzJg.Abt.12 7.44

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Uscha. Heinz Uthes 15(Aufkl)./SS-PGR.26

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 13 Sep 2014, 05:56

Uscha. Heinz Uthes
B:9.4.26 Berlin
Uscha. SS-Laz.Garmisch 5.45
WIA 11.4.45 Austria
EKII:21.3.45 Rottf. 2./SS-PAA.1
Ogren. Res.Laz.Bad Ems 9.43
WIA 21.6.44 Ogren. 15(Aufkl)./PGR.26
PzGr. 15(Aufkl)./SS-PGR.26 9.43
PzGr. 1./SS-PGR.26 8.43
PzGr. 1./SS-PzGren.AuE.Btl.1 7.43
WBS:4.45 WB:28.6.44 PAB:13.11.44

Source: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... p?t=726952

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Strm. Adolf-Georg Minderlein 5./SS-PzGren.Rgt.26

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 21 Sep 2014, 05:40

Strm. Adolf-Georg Minderlein

B:19.4.26 Adelsdorf,Landkreis Coburg
KIA 25.6.44 Fontenay,Caen
Strm. 5./SS-PGR.26 6.44

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Re: Let's build 12. SS-PzDiv.?

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Post by Ste » 06 Oct 2014, 08:32

Good morning to all of you,I am looking for the following Vermisstenbildliste:

- SS-Werfer-Abteilung 12
-SS-Artillerie-A.u.E.-Regiment 12
-SS-Panzergrenadier-E.u.A.-Bataillon 12
-SS-Panzer-E.u.A.-Bataillon 12

and i'm looking also for the Nachtrag of all units,except for this: SS-Panzer-Regiment,SS-PAA 12,I./25, 15./25.

If someone had them and could send it to me by e-mail,please write to me a PM.
Thank you in advance.

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Strm. Heinz Sorichta

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Source: http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... &mode=view

Strm. Heinz Sorichta

B:1.1.25 Rybna,Silesia
KIA 6.8.44 grave:Marigny
Strm. Stb, II./SS-PGR.26 6.44

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Re: Let's build 12. SS-PzDiv.?

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Post by andernach » 10 Oct 2014, 20:00

Hallo,
Because of seaburns information on the "Siebken"-threat, I did a research via internet.
The National Archives claims the following documents will belong to 12. SS-PzDiv, mainly because of shooting POWs:
TS 26/856
WO 309/25
WO 311/69
WO 309/2244
WO 309/1118
WO 309/961
WO 208/4684
WO 311/689
WO 311/691
HW 1/3004
HW 1/3027
HW 1/3446
HW 1/2959
HW 1/3036
HW 1/3037
HW 1/3022
HW 1/3120
HW 1/3379
HW 1/2996

Does someone have a copy of this material?

Bestr wishes,

andernach

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Re: Let's build 12. SS-PzDiv.?

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Post by Ste » 11 Oct 2014, 19:19

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7&start=30
Here it talks about Ustuf Waldberger, Chef of Versorgungskompanie II./SS-PzG Rgt 26.
Could he be Gustav Waldberger?

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Re: Let's build 12. SS-PzDiv.?

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Post by seaburn » 11 Oct 2014, 19:35

andernach wrote:Hallo,
Because of seaburns information on the "Siebken"-threat, I did a research via internet.
The National Archives claims the following documents will belong to 12. SS-PzDiv, mainly because of shooting POWs:
TS 26/856
WO 309/25
WO 311/69
WO 309/2244
WO 309/1118
WO 309/961
WO 208/4684
WO 311/689
WO 311/691
HW 1/3004
HW 1/3027
HW 1/3446
HW 1/2959
HW 1/3036
HW 1/3037
HW 1/3022
HW 1/3120
HW 1/3379
HW 1/2996

Does someone have a copy of this material?

Best wishes,

andernach
Hi Andernach - I have ts26/856 and WO311/691 . I am also in the process of getting WO309/1172 - do you need anything from these? There is a list of men that the British wanted to question from the 12th in WO311/691, I can send that list to you. Please PM me with your email address.

CB

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Kan. Johannes Kayser 9./SS-Pz.Art.Rgt.12

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 12 Oct 2014, 05:23

Kan. Johannes Kayser

B:13.2.26 Kempen
KIA 11.6.44 Ussy
Kan. 9./SS-Pz.Art.Rgt.12 6.44

Source: http://www.min-kempe.de/2-weltkrieg.html
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Ostuf. Gustav Waldberger

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Post by Moniroth You-Bell » 12 Oct 2014, 06:38

Ste wrote:http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7&start=30
Here it talks about Ustuf Waldberger, Chef of Versorgungskompanie II./SS-PzG Rgt 26.
Could he be Gustav Waldberger?

Ste, I believe it is.

Ostuf. Gustav Waldberger

B:27.10.19 Steyer
Died:9.3.45 Janoshaza, Hungary
Ostuf. Vers.Kp. II./SS-PGR.26 11.44
Ustuf. Vers.Kp. II./SS-PGR.26 6.44
Uscha. LSSAH 2.41
SS:365060 Ostuf:9.11.44

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