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Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby Carnaro on 21 Nov 2011 17:02

Hello
I'm looking for info about Radomir (or Dragomir) Arsenijević, that in august 1941 was a direct collaborator of the Chethnik commander Kosta Pećanac - Serbia.
According to a source (Borković, p. 180 - KONTRAREVOLUCIJA U SRBIJI), in august 1941 he was the Chief of Staff of Pećanac).
Instead according to another source (Kozić, ČETNICI KOSTE PEĆANCA U DRUGOM SVETSKOM RATU), the CoS in the same period was Trifun Mikić.

:?
Any idea?
Many thks
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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby Dr Eisvogel on 21 Nov 2011 19:37

Carnaro wrote:Hello
I'm looking for info about Radomir (or Dragomir) Arsenijević, that in august 1941 was a direct collaborator of the Chethnik commander Kosta Pećanac - Serbia.
According to a source (Borković, p. 180 - KONTRAREVOLUCIJA U SRBIJI), in august 1941 he was the Chief of Staff of Pećanac).
Instead according to another source (Kozić, ČETNICI KOSTE PEĆANCA U DRUGOM SVETSKOM RATU), the CoS in the same period was Trifun Mikić.

:?
Any idea?
Many thks
Max


Hello,

Radomir Arsenijević was a dentist from Zaječar. His second wife, Desanka (née Petković) was born in Jagodina in 1904.

Pećanac appointed him vojvoda rtanjski - Duke/Voivod of Rtanj.

He was arrested by Nedić's police in 1941, maybe even before August and locked in Banjica concentration camp, from which he was released in December of 1941. He was killed in the beginning of September 1943 by the Chetniks of Draža Mihailović in his car on the road between Ćuprija and Jagodina. The execution was carried by Lt. Vidić Milun "Emilo" and his men, who were subordinated to Major Rausavljević "Raus".

It seems he collaborated with Germans (Gestapo?), according to the pro-Mihailović sources.

He had three children.
His son joined the communist Partisans and died in action. He also had two daughters. One of them was named Ljijljana.

Trifun Mikić was vojvoda timočki - Duke/Voivod of Timok.

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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby Carnaro on 22 Nov 2011 16:34

Hello
Many thks! Very useful details :D
It seems that Arsenijević attended at the conference in August between Pećanac and SS-Sturmbannführer Karl Kraus, when the collaboration agreement was officialized with the Germans. It maybe that this fact has been the basis on which the accusation of collaboration with Gestapo was drafted by pro-Mihailovic sources...

Maybe do you know also the fate of Pećanac's son, Milan, who was at the HQ in Kuršumlijia with his father?

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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby G. Trifkovic on 22 Nov 2011 17:28

Eisvogel,

could you provide source(s) for your last post? Thanks.

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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby Dr Eisvogel on 22 Nov 2011 20:34

@Max "Carnaro":

Thank you. Sorry, I don't have any further details about his son.

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Eisvogel

G. Trifkovic wrote:Eisvogel,

could you provide source(s) for your last post? Thanks.

G.


Yes, I can. Here they are:

Ljubomir Tešić in: Glas javnosti, December 2003, feuilleton Crveni uragan nad Beogradom http://arhiva.glas-javnosti.rs/arhiva/2003/12/24/srpski/F03122302.shtml and in the subsequent number.
Also, in: http://www.novosti.rs/dodatni_sadrzaj/clanci.119.html:278406-Firer-u-spavacoj-sobi

About the murder of R. Arsenijević by Lt. Milun Vidić as I have already wrote, it's pro-Mihailović (Draža) source:=> Pavle Milošević: Ravnogorska omladina u pokretu Đenerala Mihailovića 1941-1945, Kragujevac, 2003, but I don't have the page.
The corroboration of existence of Lt. Milun Vidić => http://www.znaci.net/00001/4_14_3_147.htm

I've seen that Srđan Cvetković from Institut za savremenu istoriju in Belgrade uses Tešić as a source.
http://www.komunikacija.org.rs/komunikacija/casopisi/Hereticus/V_1/05/download_ser_lat

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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby xqtr on 26 Nov 2011 06:11

Radomir Raša Arsenijević was member of Ljotić`s ZBOR party before war, Chetnik of Kosta Pećanac and Gestapo agent during war. I read somewhere that his Gestapo code was "R-13".
As allready written, he was killed by anglophil "chetniks" of Draza Mihailovic.

On the picture up right one German soldier is looking at his car after being ambushed and killed by "ravnogorci".

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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby G. Trifkovic on 26 Nov 2011 15:20

xqtr ,

please provide the source for the photos.

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Re: Radomir Arsenijević: who was this man?

Postby paolosilv on 04 Feb 2013 08:46

SS-Sturmbannführer Karl Kraus. Does anyone know what happened to him? Thanks.
Born on 3-3-1908.
In 1941 CO from Einsatzkommando Belgrad der Sipo and SD within Einsatzgruppe Jugoslavien
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