Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Arto O
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 23 May 2012, 20:41

The blessing of church to the congress of Vlasov, KONR, in Praque on November 1944.
Source: Reibert forum
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 15 Jun 2012, 00:41

A religious ceremonies of 14th SS Galizien division:
in Sanok 1943, source Axis History Factbook:
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And from Wehrnacht Awards Forum;
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 29 Jun 2012, 22:14

Hi,
This a photocopy of D-K Klietmann´s book: Die Waffen-SS - eine dokumention. Do somebody has a clearer pictures, especially about the "Galizien" division one?
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by clement » 15 Aug 2012, 07:05

I have found two pics of Azeri soldiers with a Mullah while searching in the internet .Азербайджанский легион
album-29417428_145063756.htm.No more infos got any ideas ,which Btl ,where ?
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 16 Aug 2012, 22:58

Thanks A LOT Clement,
Pictures that I have been looking for years. More than happy. I put the pictures on the screen of my computer, to observe if I could find some detail, but only I can observe is that the men are mostly low ranking, but seems to be selected to something. Is there any other web-site for the originals, because I cannot type the cyrllic letters. I tried in other ways without a result.
Keep coming other ones.
THANKS
Arto

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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by ninoo » 17 Aug 2012, 00:01

clement original pictures came from http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl. you can see the remaining white watermark of the site in the first picture of the soldier that hold the mullah hand.
these are the links
http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/detail.jsp?a ... cordidx=26
http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/detail.jsp?a ... cordidx=25
and the other one from those series
http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/detail.jsp?a ... cordidx=24

probably a mullah course in Goettingen?

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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by clement » 17 Aug 2012, 06:43

Hi Ninoo ,,thanks for the beeldbank info but I could not find the pictures /The server encountered an internal error () that prevented it from fulfilling this request./ etc ;;;I agree with arto ,low ranks ,1943 badge,probably propaganda pics taken in mullah schule ,dresden or gottingen ,no more infos

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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by clement » 17 Aug 2012, 07:10

Hopefuly I have found captions of the Beeldbank pics
Image number: 43291 Collection: NIOD Caption: Mohamedaner in Uniformen der Deutschen Wehrmacht. Andächtig lauschen sie dem Text des Korans. Image Date: 26-07-1943
Image number: 43292 Collection: NIOD Caption: Der Mulla der mohamedanischen Hilfswilligen verabschiedet sich mit seinen Leuten nach dem Gottesdienst.
Image Date: 26-07-1943
Image number: 43290 Collection: NIOD Caption: In der Moschee einer islamitischen Gemeinde in Deutschland versammeln sich die Mohammedaner des Hilfswilligentrups. Zum Gottesdienst wird die Fussbekleidung abgelegt. Image Date: 26-07-1943
A new pic of soldiers takein their shoes off before entering the Mesjid
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 14 Apr 2013, 19:14

Hi,
14th "Galizien" SS-division: funerals and a field mass. Unluckily I cannot traslate the texts. Observe how the chaplain is wearing a military overcoat over the religious one.
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Arto
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Source: Brotherhood of Veterans of the 1st-Division of the Ukrainian National Army.

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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by radevich » 20 Apr 2013, 10:26

The text under the first photo:
"The funeral of two soldiers of the division (02.03.1944): Roman Andriichyn and Oleksa Bobak, who died in the battle against communist partisans in Guti Penyatsky near Brody"

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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 21 Apr 2013, 03:58

Thanks radevich for the translation.
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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 19 Feb 2014, 21:58

Hi,
A orthodox priest offering a mass. Unluckily the photos are taken too far to see details of uniforms. But they are wearing german steel helmets and and what seems to be russian style shoulder boards. Maybe ROA? The link is in russian, only I can read name of Schepetowka.
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Bajram festivity and Handschar

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Post by Arto O » 28 Feb 2014, 05:54

"Bajram" is a word of Turkish origin, meaning "festival". Two Bajrams are celebrated each year - Ramadan Bajram and Kurban Bajram. Bosnian and Hercegovinan muslims celebrates Ramadan Bajram ending of the holy month of Ramadan during which muslims fast from sunrise to sunset exchanging gifts, eating a lot of food. Kurban Bajram comes two months and ten days after and marks the willingness of Profet Ibrahim to sacrifice his son Ismael for God. This is done sacrificing sheep for this holiday, giving the meat out to their family, friends and to the poor.
Bajram festifity of 13th SS "Handschar" division:
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Re: Bajram festivity and Handschar

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Post by LMA-17 » 01 Mar 2014, 05:36

Arto O wrote:"Bajram" is a word of Turkish origin, meaning "festival". Two Bajrams are celebrated each year - Ramadan Bajram and Kurban Bajram. Bosnian and Hercegovinan muslims celebrates Ramadan Bajram ending of the holy month of Ramadan during which muslims fast from sunrise to sunset exchanging gifts, eating a lot of food. Kurban Bajram comes two months and ten days after and marks the willingness of Profet Ibrahim to sacrifice his son Ismael for God. This is done sacrificing sheep for this holiday, giving the meat out to their family, friends and to the poor.
Bajram festifity of 13th SS "Handschar" division:
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this guy must be taken them from george lepre's excellent himmler's bosnian division book, almost a whole pictures of the book. Wonder what our forum moderator will say ... :roll:

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Re: Eastern volunteers and their religion

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Post by Arto O » 01 Mar 2014, 06:33

Hi LMA-17
I know that George Lepre had wrote a book of the Handschar division, but I have never even seen the book. I would like to own one. The pictures come from PST - Axis reenactment forum - Illustrated history of the Handschar Division, where also appears the text panzergrenadier.net.
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Arto

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