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British - Request for Identification

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby Matteus on 29 Apr 2012 01:27

another one, George H. D'Oyly Lyon has taken over the command of the Nore from Admiral Reginald Drax.
just need confirmation, Drax left and Lyon right? - never saw one of them.

source: http://www.scienceandsociety.co.uk/resu ... width=1600

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby Andy H on 29 Apr 2012 16:44

Hi

D'Oyly Lyon is the gent on the left.

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby Fatboy Coxy on 30 Apr 2012 20:13

Is Drax missing teeth, or has some wag blacked out some of his teeth in this photo, like you do!

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby Matteus on 01 May 2012 02:15

hi Andrew and Fatboy Coxy, wondered about his teeth as well,

as for Admiral Plunkett-Ernle-Erle-Drax (what a name, btw), i managed to find a pic:

http://unithistories.com/units_index/de ... sonsx.html

do you still think that the person on left is Lyon? - just as the pic on the Houterman site does have some similarities with the left admiral but are ID'd as Drax/Plunkett?

thanks for your efforts,

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby marcus rowland on 29 Oct 2012 01:52

For several years my family has been trying to find out about this picture, which shows my late father Arthur Rowland (to right of centre) talking to a naval officer during WW2.

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The picture is stamped as copyright the News Chronicle, and the Imperial War Museum believes that the officer is Admiral Sir Bertram Ramsey, who was Commander of Dover and responsible for the evacuation of Dunkirk. They also say that the helmet my father was wearing identifies him as a Stretcher Party Supervisor in the Civil Defence Services (aka ARP for Air Raid Precautions), which we did more or less know. He was in the ARP in London, I think throughout the war, and is possibly one of the sources for a story that Gerald Kersh wrote about the ARP - my father knew his publisher, and may have known Kersh although I'm not 100% sure about that. About the only thing I can add is that I think that the man on the extreme left has the words "Depot Supervisor" on his helmet, which to me suggests that the picture was taken at an ARP depot.

The trouble is that this picture was more or less forgotten until after both of my parents had died, and we have no idea when or where it was taken, or what the occasion for it was - records appear to be more or less non-existent, and so far the picture hasn't turned up in microfilmed archives of the News Chronicle at the British Newspaper Library in Colindale. It would be nice to know more. Our last surviving relative of that generation was my uncle, but unfortunately he spent WW2 in the Far East, and was as puzzled by this picture as we are.

There's some evidence that this was after October 1943. In this picture Ramsay has the rank insignia of a full admiral. During Dunkirk he was still a Vice Admiral. In the summer of 1942 he was promoted and sent to Gibraltar to plan for and later command the naval aspects of Torch. In October 1943 he came back to the UK as the Naval Commander for Overlord. He died on January 2nd 1945, so this is presumably 1943-4.

If anyone can shed any light on this, or suggest any sources we could try, I'd be grateful for their help. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone who might know anything relevant. As noted above I've already tried the Imperial War Museum and the Picture Post archive, and I've just emailed the Civil Defence Association to see if they know anything.

Later edit - forgot to say that it would be interesting to know the identities of other people in the picture, if anyone recognizes anyone else.

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby ttvon on 05 Mar 2013 07:21

Hi,
Who are the two air generals in ww2?
Maybe they are from Canada, But I am not sure.

Source: Canada's war in colour

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Re: British - Request for Identification

Postby Matteus on 05 Mar 2013 09:59

maybe George Brookes (1) and William Bishop (2)

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