Ivan Serov 1905-1990

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Ivan Serov 1905-1990

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Post by Egon95 » 03 Feb 2004, 22:08

Hi'

I think it is time to start a thread on him due to the role he played during the war ...
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Post by Egon95 » 03 Feb 2004, 22:41

Ivan Serov

Son of peasants
Born the September 29, 1905 near Vologda
Entered Red Army 1923
Member of the Party 1926
Graduated from the Leningrad military school 1928
Graduated from the Frounze military academy
Entered NKVD 1939
NKVD commissar for Ukraine 1939-1941, he lead the deportations of ten thousands of men and women to the siberian camps and the killing of many others. He become famous for his atonishing brutality
Deputy people commissar for Interior in 1941, he become one of the Beria top lieutenant
Leads the deportation of hundred thousands of Caucasians 1943-1944
Deputy to Abakumov, leader of the Smersh, he destroy viciously the polish secret army (1944-1945) and founds the OB (the notorious political police of Poland)
Transfered to the second bielorussian front, he arrives at Berlin in May 1945 and remains in Germany until 1947 (he's the real maker of the Stasi)
Appointed in 1947 first vice-minister of Interior he remained at that post until the death of Stalin
1953 : he betrayed Beria for Krutchev and saves his head
March 1954 - De. 1958 : first KGB director
Decorated Lenin Order
1956 : leads the repression Budapest (he transfered hismself and its staff on the city)
Dec. 1958 - 1963 : director of the GRU (the red army intelligence service) during the Cuba crisis
Fired after the Penkovskii affair 1963
Expeled from the Party in April 1965

Retired and silencious, he died quietly on July 1, 1990

He's maybe with Beria, Himmler and Heydrich one of the greatest mass murderer of the 20th century ... it's unbeliveable that he died in his bed when we see all the lives he had destroyed during his career ...


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Post by Egon95 » 04 Feb 2004, 22:17

KGB director
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Post by varjag » 07 Feb 2004, 12:43

Egon - I share your sentiments about this Tcheka-butcher! Far far too many of these murderers have died peacefully in their beds. Russia - even more than Germany - needed 'their Nuremberg Trials' - but sadly, will never get them. Ce la vie.....

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Post by Egon95 » 08 Feb 2004, 20:26

Hi varjag, I agree with you ...

Providentialy, Stalinism was such a mad system that many of its worst butchers have been killed by their own master (Iagoda, Iejov, Peters, Beria ... etc.)

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Post by varjag » 09 Feb 2004, 02:44

Egon95 wrote:Hi varjag, I agree with you ...

Providentialy, Stalinism was such a mad system that many of its worst butchers have been killed by their own master (Iagoda, Iejov, Peters, Beria ... etc.)
Echoes of 1789 - 'the revolution eating it's children' - was that Robespierre?

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Post by Panzermahn » 10 Apr 2004, 06:44

Too bad this bolshevik pig died so peacefully in his bed...May he burn and rot in hell for ever and ever with the supreme excruciating pain that will not killed him for all the people he has directly or indirectly killed

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Post by David Thompson » 10 Apr 2004, 08:00

Panzermahn -- This is a research section of the forum. Please keep thoughts like that to yourself. If you want to document some or all of Serov's crimes, however, this is the place to do it.

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Post by varjag » 10 Apr 2004, 13:30

David Thompson wrote:Panzermahn -- This is a research section of the forum. Please keep thoughts like that to yourself. If you want to document some or all of Serov's crimes, however, this is the place to do it.
David, you're quite right! But there seems to be little research to be done, since February, about Towaritsch Ivan Serov - as no posts have been coming forth. He seems to have played the same role in war as in peace - butchering his own at his masters whim. Another medalled executioner. On that note (and my earlier post - and NOT unaware of the fires burning in Panzermahns heart.....) I tend to agree a little bit with him - that careers like Ivan Serov's, perhaps should permit a little bit more feeling into the debate....like we permit for Himmler or Pol Pot.

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Post by Panzermahn » 13 Apr 2004, 16:26

Sorry david.,..

But you had to admit, Serov is one of the vilest Russian man ever known (besides Dzugashvilli and Beria)

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Post by HT » 22 Apr 2004, 06:05

varjag wrote:
Egon95 wrote:Hi varjag, I agree with you ...

Providentialy, Stalinism was such a mad system that many of its worst butchers have been killed by their own master (Iagoda, Iejov, Peters, Beria ... etc.)
Echoes of 1789 - 'the revolution eating it's children' - was that Robespierre?
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Re: Ivan Serov 1905-1990

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Post by Yoko192 » 01 Jun 2013, 06:51

Egon 95,

Can you verify where do you get info that Serov's parents were peasants? I understand that there is no official record of his birth to peasant family and considering that his birth was prior to the revolution, one would imagine, there would be church record? My understanding is that his parents are unknown. His step father was a prison guard and disappeared in 1914. If you dig deeper, Stalin was actually imprisoned in the prison where Serov's father was stationed. As a young man, Serov was promoted to come to Moscow and to join Beria on Stalin's summon and recommendations.

Also no one is able to explain how this man survived Stalin's paranoia and was not executed before or after him. It is not an accident, I am sure. It is very unique that he was allowed to stay alive. I wonder why? What did he know that allowed him to live till old age? He has been listed by Fins as most wanted criminal for atrocities against Finnish people, long before 2 WW. He has also been linked to a disappearance of Belgian crown jewels, which were not retrieved to date.

He is historically very intriguing character.

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