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Post by Tosun Saral » 29 Jan 2007, 23:20

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Gandarmery NCO 1930
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soldier 1930 in summer uniform
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Post by Tosun Saral » 29 Jan 2007, 23:26

NCO 1932
officer cadets 1930
soldier in winter uniform 1930
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Post by Tosun Saral » 29 Jan 2007, 23:30

NCO 1933
Corporal in summer uniform 1932
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Post by Tosun Saral » 29 Jan 2007, 23:36

soldiers 1935
Parade 1934
NCO's 1933 with Hitler Schnurrbart
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Post by Tosun Saral » 29 Jan 2007, 23:50

And finaly Lt. Tosun Saral 1973
A team of soldiers with officers 1938
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Post by Doggowitz » 30 Jan 2007, 00:15

Thank you so much! Very interesting photos. What caught my interest is the apparent similiarity between those Turkish caps of the 1930's-40's and the Iranian caps from the same period (Reza Shah).

Tosun, have you ever seen a Turkish cap in real? Look at those Iranian caps... They look quite similar. The Iranian caps have eight seams on top... how about the Turkish?
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Post by Tosun Saral » 30 Jan 2007, 12:24

A very good example of Iranian cap with eight seams on top. We dont have it. Iranians are Siiten muslims for that reason they had 8 seams according to Schiiten Derwisch tradition. In Turkey we have also a world known Dervisch Order called Bektaschi. They have also 8 seams on caps. Schiiten and Bektaschi are followers of Ali the son in law and cousen of Mohammed (S.A) But our Bektaschis are not Schiite.

Reza Shah was a civilized man. He wanted his country to be modern, rich and independent. He fought againts all imperialistic influence over his country. He trew the Britisch, Russians and other out of his counry. He had only a friend. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. He visited Ataturk and wanted military and economic support. He folloled the bright path of Ataturk to reform his counry. But unfortunately Iran was not ready for such a reform. The fundamentalist Schiiten refused his reforms. He was overthrowned. His son was made Shah. The New Shah became a puppet. he found his end at exile. Poor Iran is still suffering.

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Post by Doggowitz » 30 Jan 2007, 16:40

Indeed. Thanks for your response...
I didnt know that the seams on the cap have a religious reason. Very interesting.

But how many seams do the Turkish caps have? From the distance they look a bit similar to the Iranian caps.

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Post by Tosun Saral » 30 Jan 2007, 22:51

Reza Shah wanted to reorganize his country and army after Turkish muster. For that reason there are great similiraties.

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Post by genstab » 04 Feb 2007, 19:05

I have been ttrying to compile a list of the Turkish Marshals of World War I, so may I take this opportunity to ask if any of you people interested in the Turkish Army would have this information? There are a lot of names floating around, but someone told me that there were no Marshals promoted during the war except the German officers serving in Turkey, leaving only Izzet and the retired Moukhtar as living Marshals during the war. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have had contact with a few younger people in Turkey who were going to help me by looking the information up in official sources but never heard from them again.

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Post by Tosun Saral » 04 Feb 2007, 19:28

We discussed this thema under "Turkish Marshals" in axis in 2005. There were no Turkish Marshals in WW1 but Muşir Ahmet Izzet Pasha. Ahmet Izzet Pasa was made Muşir before WW1.
On the other hand Müşir Gazi Ahmet Muhtar Pasa was made Müşir during 1877-78 Turco-Russian War. He fouht at Erzurum at East Turkey. He didnt served in WW1. Müşir Gazi Osman Paşa served also durinf 1877-78 war at Danube Front in Rumenia and Bulgaria. He fought at Plevne againts Russians.

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Post by genstab » 04 Feb 2007, 19:37

Thank you. I may have talked to you on that 2005 post. I did want the retired Marshals also as I listed all those alive for World War I and World War II; some nations say that field marshals never "retire". Thank you for mentioning Gazi Osman Pasha- but he died before the war so doesn't make the list.

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Post by cüneyt demir » 28 Nov 2007, 16:24

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Post by cüneyt demir » 28 Nov 2007, 16:38

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