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The Soviet-Polish War
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Regarding Polish casualties in the battle of Warsaw:
English wikipedia, citing J. Szczepański's 2008 article "Kontrowersje wokół bitwy warszawskiej 1920 roku" ("Controversies surrounding the Battle of Warsaw in 1920"), gives the Polish losses in this battle as 36,500 (4,500 dead, 22,000 wounded and 10,000 missing).
This seems to be a quite correct estimate. According to a 1934 book "Lista strat Wojska Polskiego. Polegli i zmarli w wojnach 1918 - 1920" ("List of casualties of the Polish Army. Killed and died in wars of 1918 - 1920"), total losses of the Polish Army in August 1920 were 50,079 killed, died, missing, wounded and unidentified losses (in this book they are called "without diagnosis").
In addition there were also 50,401 sick.
But those 50,079 casualties (and further 50,401 sick) were suffered during entire month (August 1920) and along the entire front.
While the battle of Warsaw lasted only from 12 to 25 August, and it did not encompass the entire length of the frontline.
English wikipedia, citing J. Szczepański's 2008 article "Kontrowersje wokół bitwy warszawskiej 1920 roku" ("Controversies surrounding the Battle of Warsaw in 1920"), gives the Polish losses in this battle as 36,500 (4,500 dead, 22,000 wounded and 10,000 missing).
This seems to be a quite correct estimate. According to a 1934 book "Lista strat Wojska Polskiego. Polegli i zmarli w wojnach 1918 - 1920" ("List of casualties of the Polish Army. Killed and died in wars of 1918 - 1920"), total losses of the Polish Army in August 1920 were 50,079 killed, died, missing, wounded and unidentified losses (in this book they are called "without diagnosis").
In addition there were also 50,401 sick.
But those 50,079 casualties (and further 50,401 sick) were suffered during entire month (August 1920) and along the entire front.
While the battle of Warsaw lasted only from 12 to 25 August, and it did not encompass the entire length of the frontline.
There are words which carry the presage of defeat. Defence is such a word. What is the result of an even victorious defence? The next attempt of imposing it to that weaker, defender. The attacker, despite temporary setback, feels the master of situation.
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Monthly losses (killed, died, wounded and missing - sick not included) of the Polish Army during the Polish-Soviet War:
Yellow strip = timeline of the Polish-Soviet War (until the ceasefire in late October 1920, not until the peace treaty in March 1921)
Blue strip = timeline of the Polish-Ukrainian war (from 1 November 1918 to 17 July 1919)
Orange strip = timeline of the Polish-Czechoslovak war (from 23 to 30 January 1919)
The highest monthly losses - over 50,000 (see my previous post) - were in August 1920:
Total losses in killed, died, wounded and missing (not counting sick) were 255,846 soldiers and officers.
PS:
Polish losses during the Greater Polish Uprising and the Silesian Uprisings are not included here (those were not losses of the Polish Army).
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If including losses in those uprisings and losses of improvised self-defence units in various places, then the total number of fatalities in War For Preserving Independence And Shaping the Borders of Poland (1918 - 1921) was over 100,000 killed, died and missing w/o a trace.
For example the confirmed number of fatalities in the Greater Poland Uprising is 2289. But it is possible that this number of mortal losses is still not fully complete. Initially after the end of combats the number of officially reported fatalities was 1714, but that number was incomplete.
Among these 2289, over 110 are still missing without a trace today (it is not certain what happened to them).
Of course this refers to Polish killed / dead / missing in the Greater Poland Uprising. German losses need yet to be added to this number.
Yellow strip = timeline of the Polish-Soviet War (until the ceasefire in late October 1920, not until the peace treaty in March 1921)
Blue strip = timeline of the Polish-Ukrainian war (from 1 November 1918 to 17 July 1919)
Orange strip = timeline of the Polish-Czechoslovak war (from 23 to 30 January 1919)
The highest monthly losses - over 50,000 (see my previous post) - were in August 1920:
Total losses in killed, died, wounded and missing (not counting sick) were 255,846 soldiers and officers.
PS:
Polish losses during the Greater Polish Uprising and the Silesian Uprisings are not included here (those were not losses of the Polish Army).
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If including losses in those uprisings and losses of improvised self-defence units in various places, then the total number of fatalities in War For Preserving Independence And Shaping the Borders of Poland (1918 - 1921) was over 100,000 killed, died and missing w/o a trace.
For example the confirmed number of fatalities in the Greater Poland Uprising is 2289. But it is possible that this number of mortal losses is still not fully complete. Initially after the end of combats the number of officially reported fatalities was 1714, but that number was incomplete.
Among these 2289, over 110 are still missing without a trace today (it is not certain what happened to them).
Of course this refers to Polish killed / dead / missing in the Greater Poland Uprising. German losses need yet to be added to this number.
There are words which carry the presage of defeat. Defence is such a word. What is the result of an even victorious defence? The next attempt of imposing it to that weaker, defender. The attacker, despite temporary setback, feels the master of situation.
Re: The Soviet-Polish War
http://www.stankiewicz.e.pl/index.php?kat=28
Search by surname Polish Military casualties in the Polish-Soviet war, total 47 055.
Search by surname Polish Military casualties in the Polish-Soviet war, total 47 055.