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Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Carl Schwamberger on 19 Feb 2013 18:18

canambridge wrote:
Aber wrote:September 2nd from D'Este's biography, but cannot find references re day to day activities after that


Thanks, I'm about 7,000 miles away from my books. I am surprised that there is so little about this on-line.


I am no longer suprised. In the past few years I've become aware of just how poorly studied the events surrounding the end of Op Overlord are.

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Delta Tank on 19 Feb 2013 19:33

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
canambridge wrote:
Aber wrote:September 2nd from D'Este's biography, but cannot find references re day to day activities after that


Thanks, I'm about 7,000 miles away from my books. I am surprised that there is so little about this on-line.


I am no longer suprised. In the past few years I've become aware of just how poorly studied the events surrounding the end of Op Overlord are.


The answer probably lies here: From Michael Kenny's post:
You can ask the people at the Eisenhower Foundation (eisenhowerfoundation@nara.gov) and they will send you copies of the relevant days in Eisenhower's desk Diary kept by Summersby.
I did it once and they sent me everything for free.


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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby uhu on 19 Feb 2013 21:33

Most likely to discuss Brest.

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Delta Tank on 19 Feb 2013 21:44

Aber wrote:Except that it was engine failure on the B-25 that put him on the light plane on 2nd September!


Yes a cracked muffler, caused an emergency landing IIRC. I think they probably would fix that or get a new plane, there were plenty to choose from.

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Delta Tank on 19 Feb 2013 23:58

To all,

All information that follows comes from Carlo D'Estes biography on Eisenhower.
10 August Eisenhower wrenched his knee in England (pg 604)
2 September at Chartres to visit Bradley and Patton (pg 604)
2 September wrenched his knee again while helping to push a light observation plane off the beach (pg 604)
3 September doctor flown in from England to look at knee, doctor orders bed rest (pg 605)
5 September Eisenhower resumes traveling (pg 605)
10 September Eisenhower meets with Monty
11 September Admiral Ramsay visited Eisenhower at Granville (pg 608)

Will type in more dates as I come across them while reading.

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Delta Tank on 20 Feb 2013 12:42

To all,

Just sent an e-mail to, eisenhowerfoundation@nara.gov, asking them for the details of the meeting on 9 September 1944.

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Carl Schwamberger on 20 Feb 2013 20:22

Delta Tank wrote:
Aber wrote:..... or get a new plane, there were plenty to choose from.


The WRONG answer would be; "Sorry, every plane we have here is assigned to somebody. I've got none to spare."

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Delta Tank on 20 Feb 2013 20:39

Carl Schwamberger wrote:
Delta Tank wrote:
Aber wrote:..... or get a new plane, there were plenty to choose from.


The WRONG answer would be; "Sorry, every plane we have here is assigned to somebody. I've got none to spare."


Carl,

I put that in because long time ago I was the aide to a division and post commander and our helicopter was in for maintenance and so I said to the division chief of staff: "What helicopter are we going to use tomorrow?' And the chief said "they all belong to him!" (I can't remember how many we had, but something north of 50? counting all UH, AH and CH helicopters).

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Carl Schwamberger on 23 Feb 2013 01:45

Ya, & I am sure you can visualize some clueless aircraft unit assistant ops officer telling the Generals aide on the phone: "Sorry Lt, we cant give you one they are all scheduled. Dont you understand these things need to be requested in advance. " :lol:

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Re: Eisenhower meeting with Middleton - 9 Sep 44

Postby Delta Tank on 01 May 2013 16:21

Delta Tank wrote:To all,

Just sent an e-mail to, eisenhowerfoundation@nara.gov, asking them for the details of the meeting on 9 September 1944.

Mike


I have not received a response yet. . I assume I will not receive a response.

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