Lightbob wrote:Ljadw Said:the Battle of Berlin (winter 43-44) was a defeat for Bomber Command :Harris claimed that the Germans would give up, they didn't and he had to abandon the attacks .It's that simple.
Perhaps you should consider that Harris wasn't allowed to finish the job, On the orders of SHAEF and against his and Gen Spaatz objections the Bomber force was taken off the attacks on German and were used in the preparation for and during the D Day landings
At the time the RAF considered it a defeat because of the number of casualties, 600 bombers shot down and no fire storm, and even admitted that compared to Hamburg and the Ruhr it was a defeat, the US Bomber survey make much of this. However with the opening up of archives previously held in the Old Russian Sector of East German perhaps a different interpretation could be place on the failure or other wise of the Battle of Berlin.
According to the German assessment of a raid in late '43, no bombs fell within several miles of the markers. The airfield in the periphery of Berlin were hit, airmen killed and planes destroyed or damaged. The main industrial plants all over Berlin were hit including many small factories making components for tanks and aircraft. The Great Eastern Front transit Railway station at Annalt was heavily damaged and a train with soldiers going back from Leave to Russia was hit almost 100 soldiers were killed and another 150 injured. To the German surprise a secret Luftwaffe technical testing and repair centre was completely destroyed, But only 24 houses were damaged. Not bad for a failed raid? ( taken from a British Legion Magazine and was a story of a Sergeant Navigator Shot down and his return to Berlin in Early 2000)
During the attacks on Berlin Speer had to bring 6000 technicians back from building the Atlantic Wall to keep Berlin’s utilities working, and troops from the surrounding Garrisons were continually used in rescue and keeping the streets and roads clear of rubble.
The destructions were not the aim,the aim was to break the morale of the population of Berlin,resulting in a popular revolt and the fall of the regime .The goal was not achieved,in contrast to the promises from Harris .
Saying that the reason was,that Harris was not allowed to finish the job,is a feeble excuse :there were no indications that the morale of the population was broken .