Battle of the Netherlands

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Re: Battle of the Netherlands

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Post by Mori » 03 Apr 2016, 12:48

Can you specify the source of the information that Montgomery did not read (or got through his staff) Ultra intercepts?

You mention French troops fighting in the Walcheren operations in 1944: could you point which ones?


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Re: Battle of the Netherlands

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Post by Dirk de Klein » 05 Apr 2016, 14:44

It was the 60e Division d'Infanterie and 68e Division d'Infanterie,

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Re: Battle of the Netherlands

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Post by Tom from Cornwall » 05 Apr 2016, 18:43

Hi,

Oh dear!

How would Ultra decrypts in 1944 tell anyone about Student's plan in 1940?

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Tom

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Re: Battle of the Netherlands

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Post by Mori » 11 Apr 2016, 12:57

Dirk de Klein wrote:It was the 60e Division d'Infanterie and 68e Division d'Infanterie,
I quote your page:

The province of Zeeland – more in particular Walcheren – especially comes back in the WWII history books when we look up the year 1944. British and Canadian divisions – assisted by a number of smaller allied units [Norwegian, French, Polish, Belgian, and Dutch commando troops] – would undertake a daring and unprecedented assault on the Island in the months of October and November of that year. As part of operations Switchback, Infatuate I and II [better known as “the battle ot the Scheld“] the Allies tried [and succeeded in] clearing the south-west of Holland of all German forces.

=> could you point the French forces in operations Switchack or Infatuate in 1944?

Note that there is no such thing as 60e DI or 68 DI in the French odb in 1944.

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Re: Battle of the Netherlands

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Post by Mori » 11 Apr 2016, 12:59

Another quote I'd be happy to have the source for:

If Monty would have read his periodic Bletchley Park summaries (which contained intercepted German radio traffic) – which he, stubborn as he was, specifically did not – he would have known that...

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Re: Battle of the Netherlands

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Post by Loïc » 11 Apr 2016, 16:35

both 60e and 68e DI were for the (7th) French Army in 1940

in Netherlands 1944 was sent the famous Kieffer's Naval green berets 1st Fusiliers-Marins-Commandos Battalion 1er BFMC
in 1945 were sent both 2e and 3e Régiment de Chasseurs Parachutistes of the Armée de l'Air

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Post by Mori » 11 Apr 2016, 16:45

Loïc wrote: in Netherlands 1944 was sent the famous Kieffer's Naval green berets 1st Fusiliers-Marins-Commandos Battalion 1er BFMC
Thanks, that's the piece of information I was looking for.
Loïc wrote: in 1945 were sent both 2e and 3e Régiment de Chasseurs Parachutistes of the Armée de l'Air
Operation Amherst (7-8 April, 1945).

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