German reinforcements to east 1945?

[5th Horseman]

Can anyone provide a list or a source for Corps HQs, divisions, brigades created or sent to east front from January 1945 to the end of the war?

Thanks Scott

[Kelvin]

From Norway, German sent 163. and 169.Infanterie Divisions

From Western Front, German sent 275.344.346.711.712.Infanterie divisions, 25.PanzerGrenadier Division, 21. Panzer Division, 10.SS Panzer Division Frundsberg and the whole of 6.Panzerarmee (four SS Panzer divisions)

From Italy, 356.and 710.Infanterie division

[5th Horseman]

Thanks, that's very helpful.

[Erwinn]

While Germany fighting for Survival there was at least 300.000 soldiers on Norway and another 200.000 fighting in the Narva pocket.

Also, there were 850.000 troops stationed in Budapest and a lot of them lost before-after the siege.

In total Germans would have had 1.600.000 soldiers instead of 200.000 around Berlin and Oder.

[mars]

While Germany fighting for Survival there was at least 300.000 soldiers on Norway and another 200.000 fighting in the Narva pocket.

Also, there were 850.000 troops stationed in Budapest and a lot of them lost before-after the siege.

In total Germans would have had 1.600.000 soldiers instead of 200.000 around Berlin and Oder.

By evacuating all of these area would allow Soviet release their force in Baltic, Hungary and may be Balkan too

[ML59]

Also, there were 850.000 troops stationed in Budapest and a lot of them lost before-after the siege.

In total Germans would have had 1.600.000 soldiers instead of 200.000 around Berlin and Oder.

You typed a 0 too much for Budapest; total strength of the German-Hungarian garrison was around 130.000, including hastily formed and trained local Hungarians recruits or reservists. Total strength of the Army of Courland was, at its peak, close to 600.000. But, at the end, it could not make any real difference, given the ration of Allied/German forces in Europe by spring of 1945. And there was no more maneuvering space where to withdraw, German borders were already being penetrated in the east and in the west.

[mars]

Also, there were 850.000 troops stationed in Budapest and a lot of them lost before-after the siege.

In total Germans would have had 1.600.000 soldiers instead of 200.000 around Berlin and Oder.

You typed a 0 too much for Budapest; total strength of the German-Hungarian garrison was around 130.000, including hastily formed and trained local Hungarians recruits or reservists. Total strength of the Army of Courland was, at its peak, close to 600.000. But, at the end, it could not make any real difference, given the ration of Allied/German forces in Europe by spring of 1945. And there was no more maneuvering space where to withdraw, German borders were already being penetrated in the east and in the west.

I guess "troops stationed in Budapest" in his post also included German and Hungary force stationed ouside the city which tried repeataly broke Soviet line and made contact with Budapest garrison, it also included German reinforcement to Hungary in 1945. Though German had way more than 200,000 around Berlin and Oder in April 1945

[Sid Guttridge]

There was also the "March of the East and West Goths".

Towards the end (March or April 1945?), the depots of the Ersatzheer's training divisions were emptied and sent to the front. Those heading to the Eastern Front were the "East Goths" and those heading to the Western Front were the West Goths. They must have amounted to several hundred thousand men, though with unfinished training.

Cheers,

Sid.

[ML59]

Axis troops around Budapest never even approached 850.000 and, any way, the Hungarian capital capitulated on February 1945.

[Erwinn]

Also, there were 850.000 troops stationed in Budapest and a lot of them lost before-after the siege.

In total Germans would have had 1.600.000 soldiers instead of 200.000 around Berlin and Oder.

You typed a 0 too much for Budapest; total strength of the German-Hungarian garrison was around 130.000, including hastily formed and trained local Hungarians recruits or reservists. Total strength of the Army of Courland was, at its peak, close to 600.000. But, at the end, it could not make any real difference, given the ration of Allied/German forces in Europe by spring of 1945. And there was no more maneuvering space where to withdraw, German borders were already being penetrated in the east and in the west.

Yes I actually mixed it up a bit. My mind gone to the Prague area where Army Group Centre and Ostmark were all boxed in with 1 million+ men.

[ML59]

Yes, troops still in arms in the former Czechoslovakia and Austria on May, 10th, 1945 were estimated to be around 850.000. But only a small portion were combat troops, the majority were support, rear service, school and training units. Those were the last significant portion of German Armed Forces to surrender.