Long-Range Bombing on Yaroslavl', Gorkyi and Saratov in 1943

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Long-Range Bombing on Yaroslavl', Gorkyi and Saratov in 1943

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Post by Kim Sung » 06 Apr 2007, 15:05

Hi, I'm looking for detailed info on German long-range bombings on Yaroslavl', Gorkyi and Saratov on June 1943 which got just limited success.

My questions are as follows:

1. Who mastermined these air raids?

2. How many aircrafts did the Germans lose in these air raids?

3. How many losses did the Soviets suffer?

4. If the Germans had had full success in this air operation, what effects would it have had on future operations in that year?


Does anybody know any websites dealing with these bombings? Russian or German websites would be OK.

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Post by Chaotic » 10 Apr 2007, 10:25

Thanks, Kim, for your question.
I had never evan heard about long-range bombings on Gorkiy, altough lived in this city.
Use this link, it's only about Gorkiy and on Russian.
http://www.ngc.niro.nnov.ru/4_2004/po-12.pdf


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Post by Kim Sung » 10 Apr 2007, 11:01

Thanks for your info, Chaotic!
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Post by denis23 » 16 Nov 2013, 01:52

Sorry, this was posted long long time ago, but now there is breakthrough happened in the whole thread investigation.
This is the book: Swastika Over the Volga: The Luftwaffe Versus Stalin's Air Defense Forces
Unfortunately only on russian.

http://lib.rus.ec/b/138680/read

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Post by Scott Fraser » 12 Apr 2014, 07:59

Richard Muller's The German Air Force in Russia has the most complete description I have found. ISBN 1-877853-13-5

Korten was behind it, but it was a typical effort --- too little and too late.

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Post by steverodgers801 » 12 Apr 2014, 19:23

The idea was to hit the electrical plants that supplied industries. I don't know if there was much if any damage. The two main issues were a lack of pilots and suitable bombers. Germany was suffering a severe lack of bomber pilots and the intended bomber the HE 177 was having too many problems to work properly. The airfields that the Germans used were overrun and the cities were out of range

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Post by lufty1 » 14 Jun 2014, 18:12

Oleg Hoeffding paper from early 1970's -pdf too big too attach but you can google it or i can email it.

Information on these attacks is available on many books and sources

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Post by lufty1 » 21 Jun 2014, 15:29

Ploecher "german airforce vs russia 1942 " p 114 and next few pages mentions attacks on gorki and yaroslawl in 1942 with few planes

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Post by lufty1 » 22 Jun 2014, 17:29

Also pp75-85 of Ploecher GAF vs Russia 1943 describes the campaign. Doesn't mention attack on saratov though.

Also, for eg, history of kg4 and othe kg's in german.

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Post by lufty1 » 22 Jun 2014, 18:02

German Air intel had identified aviation fuel production as a potential weakness on the soviet side - hence saratov refinery. But having googled "bombing saratov 1943" i find conflicting references - one says that "saratov tractor plant produced and repaired t34s and was completely destroyed after constant bombing in october 1942"

Another search result says that the germans bombed the yak aircraft factory at saratow

1000 sorties were flown against the tank factories at gorki, 6 planes lost. Damage was heavy according to hoeffding, to a plant producing light tanks. Another plant producing 1500 t34s pa was not identified or hit.

These raids were part of a larger campaign in the mud season which Ploecher describes well - a soviet build up was identified and the seasonally rail traffic (increased because of the impassibility of roads.) was attacked .

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Post by Art » 23 Jun 2014, 09:23

lufty1 wrote:German Air intel had identified aviation fuel production as a potential weakness on the soviet side - hence saratov refinery. But having googled "bombing saratov 1943" i find conflicting references - one says that "saratov tractor plant produced and repaired t34s and was completely destroyed after constant bombing in october 1942"
No T-34s or other tanks were produced in Saratov. Saratov combine harvester factory was reoriented toward producing Yak type fighter airplanes before the war start.

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