Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

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Amphibious Assaults in the Eastern front

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Post by tigre » 30 Jul 2005, 17:19

Hi to all gentlemen

The military historians always mentioned the forgotten battles of the Russo-German front but what about the amphibious operations?, this topic was forgotten or neglectec as well. I've in mind for example the German amphibious assault on the baltic islands (Dago, Ossel) in 1941 as well yhe Russo amphibious assault in 1944; the German assault on the Kerch strait; the Russo (Soviet) amphibious assaults on Feodosia, Novorossyk, Eltingen and Petsamo area. Gentlemen, why not let's build the amphibious assault on the baltic islands (1941) or anyone else?. Gentlemen is up to you. Regards. Tigre.

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Post by Kunikov » 31 Jul 2005, 04:44

tigre wrote:Hi to all gentlemen

The military historians always mentioned the forgotten battles of the Russo-German front but what about the amphibious operations?, this topic was forgotten or neglectec as well. I've in mind for example the German amphibious assault on the baltic islands (Dago, Ossel) in 1941 as well yhe Russo amphibious assault in 1944; the German assault on the Kerch strait; the Russo (Soviet) amphibious assaults on Feodosia, Novorossyk, Eltingen and Petsamo area. Gentlemen, why not let's build the amphibious assault on the baltic islands (1941) or anyone else?. Gentlemen is up to you. Regards. Tigre.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... 95/ACB.htm

Also try "Blood on the Shores" by Victor Leonov and "Commandos from the Sea"


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Post by tigre » 31 Jul 2005, 05:28

Thank you for the input Kunikov, useful info (any first hand account of the units involved will be appreciate); something from the German side (61 ID reports about the assault on Ossel and Dago and the 46 ID on the Kerch strait for example). Regards. Tigre

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Post by Andreas » 31 Jul 2005, 09:08

If you speak German, 'Der Kampf um die Baltischen Inseln' by Melzer is a very good book dealing with the battles for Dago, Osel and Moon in 1918, 1941, and 1944.

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Post by Panzermahn » 31 Jul 2005, 12:58

The Soviets attempted an amphibitous assault at Mereküle, Narva, Estonia during the Battle of the European SS in 1944. 500 out of 525 Soviet troops landed were destroyed by two companies of Estonian Waffen SS troops.

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Post by tigre » 02 Aug 2005, 00:21

Thank you gentlemen. Regards. Tigre.

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Post by Esa K » 04 Aug 2005, 22:09

Hi

On the eastern shore of the lake Ladoga near river Tuulos (Finnish name of the river) the Soviet 70. Naval Infantry Brigade made a landing in the rear of the Finnish 5. Division 23/6 1944. If it´s of interest I can provide some more facts and numbers about the operation.


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Post by tigre » 05 Aug 2005, 02:13

Sure, it would be interesting to know about that operation. Thank you Esa K. Cheers. Tigre.

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Post by Mek » 05 Aug 2005, 20:41

Esa K wrote: On the eastern shore of the lake Ladoga near river Tuulos (Finnish name of the river) the Soviet 70. Naval Infantry Brigade made a landing in the rear of the Finnish 5. Division 23/6 1944. If it´s of interest I can provide some more facts and numbers about the operation.
Also Soviet 59th Army tried to cross Bay of Viipuri between 30.6.1944 - 9.7.1944, but it was not succesful. There was also a German Greif division taking part in the defence action. Not really sure what units did 59th army consisted of, were there marines or other naval units?

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Post by TISO » 06 Aug 2005, 17:19

Does anone have any photos of Soviet assault, transport boats in action?
All i have are photos and drawings of 5 and 15 ton tenders from Modelist - Konstruktor:
http://mkmagazin.almanacwhf.ru/other/ships/tender.htm

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Post by BIGpanzer » 06 Aug 2005, 18:19

I know one good site: http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru , unfortunately, on Russian only.
Here you could find all info about Soviet ships of WWII, including landing vessels.

Some photos from the site:
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/bolinder.jpg ("Bolinder"-type landing barge, 255 t, built in 1915-1916, 3 copies, were used at Black Sea)

Also Soviets used 4 landing barges of SB-type (720 t, built in 1940s, were used at Baltic Sea); 4 landing barges of A-type (1055 t, built in 1941, were used in landing operations against Japan in August 1945); 1 landing barge of G-type (591 t, built in 1941, was used in landing operation against Japan).

http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/afp.jpg ("AFP/MFP"-type high-speed landing barges, Soviets captured 25 such German 250-t barges and used them at Black Sea (mainly) and Baltic Sea).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/siebel.jpg ("Siebel"-type landing 143t ferry, Soviets captured one and used it at Baltic Sea).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/lci945.jpg (Lend-Lease LCI-type landing ships, 380 t, Soviets received 30 copies and used them at Pacific Ocean in 1945).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/lct1.jpg (Lend-Lease LCT-type landing ships, 286 t, Soviets received 13 and used them mainly at Pacific Ocean in 1945, one - at Black Sea and two - by North Navy).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/tender_ld.jpg (landing boats of "Tender"-type, 26 t, 113 were built in 1942-43 and used very widely at Black and Baltic Seas).
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/db.jpg , http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/db8.jpg , http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/db7.jpg (landing boats of DB-type, 19 t, 99 were built in 1942 and used at Black Sea)
http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru/amphibious/pic/dmb_ld.jpg (12 copies of DMB-type landing boats, 20 t, built in 1943, Black Sea).
Also 8 copies of DB-51-type landing boats (previous German and Finnish, 65 t) + 8 copies of DB-71-type landing boats (previous Japanese, 20 t) + 2 Lend-Lease LCM (29 t) + 2 Lend-Lease LCV (11 t) + 2 Lend-Lease LCP (52 t).

It should be also noted that during forced crossings in 1944-1945 Soviets used very widely Lend-Lease Ford GPA and GMC DUKW-353 amphibious cars, as well as surviving native amphibious light tanks T-37A, T-38 and T-40.

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Post by Esa K » 09 Aug 2005, 14:28

Have started a thread at the Winter & Continuation War forum here about the landing of the Soviet 70. Naval Brigade in Ladoga 1944

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Bay of Viipuri

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Post by Jani K. » 11 Aug 2005, 20:27

About the battles of Viipuri bay I would suggest reading (in finnish):

Lappalainen, Niilo:
Veren kostuttamat saaret - Teikarin ja Melanlahden taistelut kesällä 1944
(Islands Moistened by Blood - The Battles of Teikari and Melanlahti in the Summer 1944)
Kustannuspiste Oy, 1981[/quote]

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Post by Benoit Douville » 03 Nov 2007, 02:41

I don't think that the German amphibious assault was really discuss in depth here, if so I cannot find the thread. I would like to have more info about those forgotten Amphibious Assault.

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Post by Sicshit » 03 Nov 2007, 03:00

BIGpanzer wrote:I know one good site: http://sovnavy-ww2.by.ru , unfortunately, on Russian only.
Here you could find all info about Soviet ships of WWII, including landing vessels.
If you need some information from Russian sites, i can try to do a translation, just give me the link or paste the text here.

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