Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by ClintHardware » 09 Mar 2014, 10:55

Lt.Col Jolsen or Joslen lists the 1st/6th, 4th/6th and 6th/6th Raj Rifs in the index of his O.O.B of the Second World War HMSO.
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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by Urmel » 09 Mar 2014, 11:31

ClintHardware wrote:The British like illogical numberings because they can mystify and worry their enemies. The numbering and re-numbering of the 7th/6th/7th/70th Infantry Division is only one example. Keep your enemies guessing.
Well that is slightly different, since the UK regiment illogical numbers didn't change.
ClintHardware wrote:I do not know Indian Army history but would guess the 1st - 5th Raj Rifs Regiments had existed sometime since Clive of India.
They did, but they had a different numbering system until the reorganisation of 1922.
The enemy had superiority in numbers, his tanks were more heavily armoured, they had larger calibre guns with nearly twice the effective range of ours, and their telescopes were superior. 5 RTR 19/11/41

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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by brenchleybrown » 10 Mar 2014, 17:24

A great resource thank you. One question however - 1RF (1Fusiliers) shown twice. Once under 6Div Bagush Box and again under 4 IND DIV Sidi Haneish Area. Can anyone throw light on this?

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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by ClintHardware » 12 Mar 2014, 11:26

Hi BB

Under the 6 Div the whole brigade was only temporarily attached and thus is also shown under 4 Ind Div where it would later be under command.
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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by brenchleybrown » 19 Apr 2014, 00:48

Many thanks for clarification. Most helpful

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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by MarkN » 19 Aug 2015, 14:33

ClintHardware wrote:I found the OOB of the reformed WDF @ 22nd April in the CYRCOM/WDF War Diary. Does anyone want me to type it out and share? Its about 4 pages of detail and helps to place who was where including 7th Australian Divsion.

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You put in a huge amount of time and effort to retype all of that and so generous to make it available to others. Thank you.

However, are you aware that HQ Cyrenaica/WDF put out an amendment to that orbat 6 days later?

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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by David W » 20 Aug 2015, 06:54

Is the amended version able to be posted here?

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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by ClintHardware » 03 Sep 2015, 07:50

.......and with references too please Mark.
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Re: Western Desert Force OOB 22nd April 1941

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Post by David W » 19 Mar 2016, 12:08

Any luck with posting the amend Mark?

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