Other than the Germans & Jews, which ethnic groups immigrated *by the millions* to their ancestors' original homeland?

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Other than the Germans & Jews, which ethnic groups immigrated *by the millions* to their ancestors' original homeland?

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Post by Futurist » 22 Apr 2016, 04:54

Any thoughts on this?

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Post by Art » 22 Apr 2016, 20:30

French population of North-Africa in 1950-60s. Rather a million than several millions but still.


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Post by Loïc » 22 Apr 2016, 22:06

The million of French pieds noirs repatriated in 1962 had the french nationality but were roughly families with several origins, a "cocktail" with around ~50% of French blood, in particular from annexed Alsace, mixed with others 50% from former settlers from Spain (especially in Oranais) Italy and Malta, more a significative touch of natives Algerians-jews naturalized collectively since 1871 not excluding some possibles few others german and swiss origins

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Post by Futurist » 29 Apr 2016, 06:32

Art wrote:French population of North-Africa in 1950-60s. Rather a million than several millions but still.
Loïc wrote:The million of French pieds noirs repatriated in 1962 had the french nationality but were roughly families with several origins, a "cocktail" with around ~50% of French blood, in particular from annexed Alsace, mixed with others 50% from former settlers from Spain (especially in Oranais) Italy and Malta, more a significative touch of natives Algerians-jews naturalized collectively since 1871 not excluding some possibles few others german and swiss origins
Considering that the Pieds-Noirs appear to have become Frenchified by 1962, Yes, I do think that Algeria would work for this. :)

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Post by Futurist » 01 May 2016, 07:08

Also, if Algeria works for this, then Kazakhstan should likewise work for this:

http://www.rferl.org/content/kazakhstan ... 96879.html

"Kazakhstan's government says nearly 1 million ethnic Kazakhs have returned or moved to Kazakhstan since it gained independence in the Soviet collapse of 1991.

In an announcement on January 16, the Ministry of Healthcare and Social Development said that as of the start of this year, 952,882 "Oralman" had resettled in Kazakhstan since the government launched a repatriation program shortly after independence.

An Oralman, or Returnee, is an ethnic Kazakh who lived outside Kazakhstan but chose to return or move there after Kazakhstan became a country."

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Post by Art » 04 May 2016, 12:11

Russians and Russian-speakers after collapse of the USSR, come to that.

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Post by Futurist » 04 May 2016, 21:55

Art wrote:Russians and Russian-speakers after collapse of the USSR, come to that.
Yes, I think that ethnic Russians and Russian-speakers would certainly work for this :):

For instance, in Kazakhstan, the number of ethnic Russians decreased from 6,227,549 in 1989 to 3,685,009 in 2014. Likewise, the number of ethnic Russians in Kyrgyzstan decreased from 916,558 in 1989 to 369,939 in 2014 and the number of ethnic Russians in Tajikistan decreased from 388,481 in 1989 to 34,838 in 2010. (The decrease of Turkmenistan's ethnic Russian population is less severe--they numbered 333,892 in 1989 and 242,307 in 2012. Also, I unfortunately haven't seen any post-1989 census data for Uzbekistan. Meanwhile, both Ukraine and Belarus certainly deserve a much more detailed analysis of their post-1989 ethnic demographics considering that the possibility of ethnic re-identification (as in, Russian to Ukrainian and Russian to Belorussian) certainly exists in both of these countries.)

Thus, in Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan, the cumulative number of ethnic Russians was 7,532,588 in 1989 but less than 4,100,000 in the early 2010s. Frankly, while I certainly don't have any actual empirical research to back this up, my own gut feeling is that most of this decline in the ethnic Russian population of these three countries was the result of emigration (presumably primarily to Russia)--though natural population decline also almost certainly played a role in the ethnic Russian population decline in these three countries.

Thus, your statement here certainly appear to be correct, Art! :)

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