15 Decisive Battles

[Inselaffe]

The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World: from Marathon to Waterloo is too anglocentric ,

Whereas your list is merely eurocentric No battles outside of Europe at all? There must be some that would make a top 15 for decisiveness, further up this thread there are several good contenders in my opinion.

Cheers.

[SpanishBriton]

The Fifteen Decisive Battles of the World: from Marathon to Waterloo is too anglocentric ,

Whereas your list is merely eurocentric No battles outside of Europe at all? There must be some that would make a top 15 for decisiveness, further up this thread there are several good contenders in my opinion.

Cheers.

Well understand that my list may be eurocentric to people outside europe, in fact there is inothing wrong with that, because without Europe there would not be the world we know today especially by the 5 major nations in Europe (UK, Germany, Spain , France and Italy) and also Portugal and Greece

cheers

[Sommerhielm]

You don't know what you are talking about.

No slight on the Scandinavians - all fine people but who didn't shape world events like the French, Spanish, British, Germans.

When discussing the great European colonial powers, you don't list the Swedes or Danes do you?

The Scandinavian countries from the High Middle Ages onward were part of the German cultural world, if Hardrada would have conquered England so in time would the British Isles. In fact, the Swedish Empire combined the best of both worlds, Scandinavian egalitarianism with German military organisation and government efficiency.

If Gustavus Adolphus had landed in England in 1630, could they defeat him?

[Piotr Kapuscinski]

with German military organisation and government efficiency.

Was there any government efficiency in Germany in 17th century?

[BarKokhba]

Hello Decisive Battles Group!
Here's my list, beginning with the end of the Christian Byzantium Empire, essentially ending the Ancient Classical Era. I chose these events as decisive because they were not only keynote military events, but because of the long lasting, critical cultural and political effects they had on world civilization.
Manzikert, 1071 the Islamic victory over Christian Byzantium. Turkey, North Africa and most of the Middle East remains Islamic to this day.
Tenochtitlan, 1519. The Aztec Empire's defeat by Spain and its tempoarary Indian allies. Native peoples in Mexico, the Caribbean and all of Central America have been subjugated to Spanish culture and language since that defeat. (Similar to South America's subjugation since Cuzco in that era.
The Defeat of the Armada, 1588, preserved Protestantism and the early stirrings of political constitutional republicanism in Holland and England.
Vienna, 1683. The defeat of the Turks by the Alliance preserved the status quo in Europe, allowing for 2 centuries of global domination by Europe.
Quebec, 1758. The end of French aspirations in the Western Hemisphere. British global ascendancy in the New World and India.
Saratoga, 1777. The astounding defeat of British regulars by Colonials is the turning point of the American Revolution and brings in French military assistance.
Waterloo, 1814, ended all the Napoleonic Wars and began a new era for Europe.
Stalingrad, 1942-43, the absolute turning point in WW2, we Germany in retreat and the Soviet Union marching to Berlin and becoming a world power.
Hiroshima/ Nagasaki, 1945, not a battle, but an air attack that ended WW2 and began a new Era for mankind.
Dien Bien Phu, 1952, Communist Viet forces defeat French Colonial force, essentially ending the colonial era around the globe.

[Ironmachine]

Hello Decisive Battles Group!
Here's my list, beginning with the end of the Christian Byzantium Empire, essentially ending the Ancient Classical Era. I chose these events as decisive because they were not only keynote military events, but because of the long lasting, critical cultural and political effects they had on world civilization.
Manzikert, 1071 the Islamic victory over Christian Byzantium. Turkey, North Africa and most of the Middle East remains Islamic to this day.
Tenochtitlan, 1519. The Aztec Empire's defeat by Spain and its tempoarary Indian allies. Native peoples in Mexico, the Caribbean and all of Central America have been subjugated to Spanish culture and language since that defeat. (Similar to South America's subjugation since Cuzco in that era.
The Defeat of the Armada, 1588, preserved Protestantism and the early stirrings of political constitutional republicanism in Holland and England.
Vienna, 1683. The defeat of the Turks by the Alliance preserved the status quo in Europe, allowing for 2 centuries of global domination by Europe.
Quebec, 1758. The end of French aspirations in the Western Hemisphere. British global ascendancy in the New World and India.
Saratoga, 1777. The astounding defeat of British regulars by Colonials is the turning point of the American Revolution and brings in French military assistance.
Waterloo, 1814, ended all the Napoleonic Wars and began a new era for Europe.
Stalingrad, 1942-43, the absolute turning point in WW2, we Germany in retreat and the Soviet Union marching to Berlin and becoming a world power.
Hiroshima/ Nagasaki, 1945, not a battle, but an air attack that ended WW2 and began a new Era for mankind.
Dien Bien Phu, 1952, Communist Viet forces defeat French Colonial force, essentially ending the colonial era around the globe.

The siege and fall of Tenochtitlan happened in 1521, not in 1519.
The Battle of Quebec (the one between Wolfe and the Marquis de Montcalm, for there are other so-called battles of Quebec) happened in 1759, not in 1758.
Waterloo happened in 1815, not in 1814.
The Battle of Dien Bien Phu happened in 1954, not in 1952.
For battles that had "long lasting, critical cultural and political effects" on world civilization, they seem to be not so accurately remembered as they should!

[BarKokhba]

Thank you much for the date corrections! I'm usually accurate but missed the mark here, apologies to all. Any folks out there with thoughts on the list?