Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 14 May 2013, 23:38

TISO wrote:As per photo it is no way to be of Tupolev G-5 type.
Yes, of course.
G-5 were made out of aluminum(?) and this #2 out of (ply?)wood.
TISO wrote:Could it be one of former english Thorneycroft CMB's?

TISO wrote:On the list under torpedo boats on the link there are 7 Thornycrofts (TKA-1 to TKA-7):
http://flot.sevastopol.info/ship/katera/katera.htm
Well, theoretically yes, as there are some similarities, but AFAIK no 100% match.
Perhaps a Soviet prototype based on Thornycroft?

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 15 May 2013, 07:13

TISO wrote:On the list under torpedo boats on the link there are 7 Thornycrofts (TKA-1 to TKA-7):
http://flot.sevastopol.info/ship/katera/katera.htm
The Thornycroft type ТКА №2 designation however would fit well there.
CMB's at Gulf of Finland: http://terijoki.spb.ru/history/templ.ph ... ut&lang=en

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by PT Dockyard » 02 Jun 2013, 20:51

The hull lines here are definitely Thornycroft. She would have a torpedo well then, not tubes.

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by olia » 02 Jun 2013, 21:46

Meanwhile, June 13, 1929 at TsAGI Tupolev began construction of a new boat gliding dural ANT-5, armed with two 533 mm torpedoes. From April to November 1933 boat passed factory tests in Sevastopol, and from November 22 to December - the state tests. Tests ANT-5 LED heads literally in delight - a boat with torpedoes developed speed 58 knots (107.3 km / h), and no torpedoes - 65.3 knots (120.3 km / h). About those speeds could not even dream boats from other countries.

Plant. Marty, starting with V series (the first four series - it launches W-4), moved on to the production of G-5 (the so-called serial boats ANT-5). Later G-5, and began to build in the factory number 532 in Kerch, and with the beginning of the war the factory number 532 was evacuated to Tyumen, and there is a factory number 639 also started the construction of boats of G-5. Total built 321 serial cutter G-5 nine series (from VI to XII, including the XI-bis).

Torpedoes in all the series was the same: two 533-mm torpedo flute devices. But the machine gun armament was constantly changing. So, boats VI-IX series had two 7.62-mm machine gun air YES. The following series had two 7.62-mm machine guns ShKAS aircraft, characterized by larger rate. Since 1941, the boats are equipped with one or two 12.7-mm machine guns ANC.
http://www.popmech.ru/article/258-oshib ... -tupoleva/

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by Vaeltaja » 02 Jun 2013, 21:58

PT Dockyard wrote:The hull lines here are definitely Thornycroft. She would have a torpedo well then, not tubes.
Not necessarily, though I'm not certain if Soviets made similar design attempts like the Finns. That is for example Finns did build one motor torpedo boat (MTV-3, or Isku) with Thornycroft hull lines but with 'Italian' style (side hanging) torpedo mounts. For prototype boats anything is generally possible. Granted that your assumption is most likely valid and mine is more far fetched.

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by PT Dockyard » 03 Jun 2013, 13:27

I meant more from the hull lines.

There is a picture of this boat covered in snow in Jurg Meister's "Soviet Warships of World War II." He lists this as a "Pocket MTB" captured near Onega. Not the best source on Soviet ships but the description is interesting as the text on the Pocket MTB is not linked to the photo- they are in completely different parts of the book.

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Re: Unknown Soviet motor torpedo boat

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 28 Feb 2015, 17:44

Ruotsinsalmi wrote:According to Siegfried Breyer: Soviet Warship Development vol. one: 1917-1937, page 97 British left some Thornycroft boats for the Whites to use after the campaign of intervention against the Bolsheviks in 1919. One Baltic Fleet boat (Minnyy Kater No 2) was transferred to Peoples Commissariat for Heavy Industry in 1924. The fate is unknown. At least the number matches?
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http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1920647

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