Unknown AA-mg?
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Unknown AA-mg?
Suulajärvi airfield(?) 26.8.43.
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Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Interesting that the corporal wears Artillery collar tabs. AAA normally used Air Force tabs.
Recently transferred perhaps?
With best, J-P
Recently transferred perhaps?
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Re: Unknown AA-mg?
R-5 mentioned to have been shot down probably by the above mentioned AA-mg at Suistamo airfield
http://waralbum.ru/197072/
SA-photo a_435
More photos a_431 - a_439 and a_517 - a_518
Regards, Juha
http://waralbum.ru/197072/
SA-photo a_435
More photos a_431 - a_439 and a_517 - a_518
Regards, Juha
Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Hi all,
MG08 ??
According to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MG2.htm, Finland had not this model of MG in 1939-40
Images from SA-Kuva archive (10951-8291)
Sturm78
MG08 ??
According to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MG2.htm, Finland had not this model of MG in 1939-40
Images from SA-Kuva archive (10951-8291)
Sturm78
Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Top: 7.62 mm Maxim m/32-33 with its tripod folded into anti-aircraft position.Sturm78 wrote: MG08 ??
According to http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MG2.htm, Finland had not this model of MG in 1939-40
Images from SA-Kuva archive (10951-8291)
Bottom: 7.62 mm Maxim m/09 with non-standard (but possibly industrially manufactured?) fixed anti-aircraft mount.
Jarkko
Re: Unknown AA-mg?
The machinegun shown in this and "1940.02.07" photo are likely captured PV-1 aircraft machineguns.Juha Tompuri wrote:R-5 mentioned to have been shot down probably by the above mentioned AA-mg at Suistamo airfield
SA-photo a_435
More photos a_431 - a_439 and a_517 - a_518
Jarkko
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Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Yes, also mentioned at the photo source: http://waralbum.ru/197072/JTV wrote:The machinegun shown in this...Juha Tompuri wrote:R-5 mentioned to have been shot down probably by the above mentioned AA-mg at Suistamo airfield
SA-photo a_435
More photos a_431 - a_439 and a_517 - a_518
Hmmm...JTV wrote:and "1940.02.07" photo are likely captured PV-1 aircraft machineguns.
At least here there are several differences:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5&start=15
Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Thank you very much for your help, Jarkko.Jarkko wrote
Top: 7.62 mm Maxim m/32-33 with its tripod folded into anti-aircraft position.
Bottom: 7.62 mm Maxim m/09 with non-standard (but possibly industrially manufactured?) fixed anti-aircraft mount.
I am not sure about these another two machineguns.
Image 1: ?? Shkass
Image 2: Maxim M/09-21 on improvised AA mount??
Images from SA-Kuva archive (20433-8097)
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Re: Unknown AA-mg?
A twin ShkassSturm78 wrote:Image 1: ?? Shkass
Seems to be.Sturm78 wrote:Image 2: Maxim M/09-21 on improvised AA mount??
Cart wheel mount.
Regards, Juha
Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Thank you very much, again, for your help, Juha.
Regards Sturm78
Regards Sturm78
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Re: Unknown AA-mg?
Yet another improvised mount: #4148, 5 February 1940. The gunner Olavi Elo has rather interesting civilian gloves with Norwegian inspired motif (Aid from Norway or local production?).
Re: Unknown AA-mg?
I took a second look and it you are correct - it is not PV-1. It is definetely Maxim-based design, but receiver is shallow. My best guess is Vickers aircraft machinegun (observer's / machinegunner's version) of some sort in either 7.62 x 53R or .303 British - quite possibly version closely related to Vickers class E.Juha Tompuri wrote: Hmmm...
At least here there are several differences...
Jarkko