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Post by Slon-76 » 24 Jan 2015, 20:43

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Kemijarvi. 03/01/1940

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What kind of rifle in the hands of the soldier in the center.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 24 Jan 2015, 20:50

It seems to be a Swedish origin 6,5mm light machinegun M/21/6,5mm Kulsprutegevär m/21 (in Swedish).
Browning Automatic Rifle M1918 'BAR' family.
I think it is possible that the whole group is actually of Swedish volunteers training at Northern Finland (the three other guys possibly being armed with Swedish origin 6,5mm Mauser rifles).

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Post by JTV » 25 Jan 2015, 19:20

The light machinegun is indeed M/21, but the rifles seem to be 7.62-mm (Mosin-Nagant) infantry rifles m/91. Notice the muzzle area and front barrel band location. Hence no Swedish volunteers (swich were completely equipped with Swedish small-arms), but quite typical Finnish Winter War era infantry in Lapland. Light machinegun is probably part of the private purchase made by Rafael "Rafu" Lönnström.

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 26 Jan 2015, 00:06

JTV wrote: the rifles seem to be 7.62-mm (Mosin-Nagant) infantry rifles m/91. Notice the muzzle area and front barrel band location.
Yes, my bad. Should have looked more closely.
Even the m/91 integral charger-loaded magazines are visible at those rifles.
JTV wrote: Light machinegun is probably part of the private purchase made by Rafael "Rafu" Lönnström.
...or Ragnar Nordström?

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Post by JTV » 26 Jan 2015, 07:15

JTV wrote: Light machinegun is probably part of the private purchase made by Rafael "Rafu" Lönnström.
...or Ragnar Nordström?

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Yes, damn - I mixed the two persons again (not a first time).

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Post by Sturm78 » 03 Mar 2015, 12:07

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the exact model of this Mosin-Nagant rifle ?

Image from SA-Kuva archive (72162)
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Post by JTV » 03 Mar 2015, 18:40

Sturm78 wrote: Can somebody identify the exact model of this Mosin-Nagant rifle ?
Image from SA-Kuva archive (72162)
Soviet m/91-30.

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Post by Sturm78 » 04 Mar 2015, 12:59

Thank you, Jarkko

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Mar 2015, 16:44

Hi all,

Can anyone identify the rifles of these two images from SA-Kuva archive (73872-73285)

Image 1: ???
Image 2: M/27 ??? :?

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Mar 2015, 12:19

Nobody ??

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Post by Marsalkka Mahtimeisseli » 21 Mar 2015, 15:22

I think the first one is M/27 "Pystykorva", the nose cap, sights and the frontal sling swivel made for ski troops point to that direction.

The rifle in the second image looks to me like Civil Guard's M/28 "Pystykorva". The open nose cap gives that way.

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Post by Sturm78 » 22 Mar 2015, 12:21

Ufff,,,,It is very difficult for me to differenciate between the different models of Mosin-Nagant rifles....

Here, another image from SA-Kuva archive (77069)

7.62mm M/91 ???

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Post by Sturm78 » 27 Apr 2015, 10:42

Hi all,

Can somebody identify the exact model od these Mosin-Nagant rifles ??

Image from SA-Kuva archive (92879)

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Post by JTV » 28 Apr 2015, 06:21

Sturm78 wrote:Can somebody identify the exact model od these Mosin-Nagant rifles ??
Image from SA-Kuva archive (92879)
At least three of the closest rifle pile are infantry rifles m/91 or m/91-24 - more likely m/91. The rifle on the right is probably as well due to being same length, but otherwise has all useful points of reference hidden in this photo.

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Post by Sturm78 » 28 Apr 2015, 12:01

Thank you, Jarkko,

Any idea about the rifle of the image posted on 22 Mar 2015 ??

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