The official AHF Winter & Continuation War quiz thread

[Mikko H.]

I have to rephrase my original question -- I forgot all about the Finnish volunteer expedition to Estonia in 1919 . If that war is included, there's a number of generals who fulfill my original conditions.

So, name at least two Finnish generals who served during the WWII in one capability or another, and had served in two armies other than Finnish, not counting service in Estonian War of Liberty.

As said, there are (at least) three men who fulfill these conditions, and none has been named so far.

Sorry for this confusion, folks!

[Esa K]

Hmmmm....

....second try, V. Tuompo and O. Olenius?

Esa K

[Mikko H.]

Sorry, but again the answer is no. Both Olenius and Tuompo were Jägers, but that's the extent of their foreign service.

Hint: the men we're looking for all served in the Imperial Russian Army during the WWI, and entered for a short period of time in the service of a third nation after the Russian Revolution. For all the men it was a different country.

Now, there weren't that many former Russian officers among Finnish generals during the WWII, and tykistönkenraali Vilho Nenonen has already been ruled out...

[Esa K]

... a last attempt...

...could it then be: G.F Palmroth and H. U. Alfthan?

Esa K

[Mikko H.]

Harry Uno Alfthan is indeed one of the men we're looking for. In the WWI he served in the 6th Hussar Regiment, reaching the rank of captain of cavalry. When the Ukrainian Hussars decided to go their own way on 23 December 1917 (don't know if this is Julian or Gregorian reckoning), Alfthan took their command and served in the White Ukrainian Army until February 1918. He returned to Finland in the Summer of 1918 was commissioned majuri in the Finnish Army on 5 August 1918. In the Winter War he commanded first the Uusimaa Dragoon Regiment until 10 February 1940 and then took the command of the Cavalry Brigade. On 6 June 1941 Alfthan was promoted to kenraalimajuri and three days later he took the command of the Garrison of Helsinki, a position he held until his retirement in 1946.

Georg Fredrik Palmroth served also in a Hussar regiment in the Imperial Russian Army before and during the WWI, reaching the rank of podpolkovnik (lieutenant-colonel). Palmroth also quit his commission in December 1917, but as far as is known he did not serve in any other army before returning Finland -- there is a six-month gap in early 1918 in my sources, so I can't say for certain he didn't serve, but still, he isn't one of our men.

Alfthan is one -- who are the two others? If Esa comes up with one, he's the winner unless somebody else finds both the two others first!

[Esa K]

Said my latest try was the last, but, can«t stop now...

K.F. Wilkama?



With regards

Esa K

[Mikko H.]

Sorry, not Wilkama... he returned to Finland in the Autumn of 1917 and was in the Finnish Army from the beginning.

Another hint seems to be in order. Of the two men one served for the whole WWII in the Supreme HQ, some of the time as a subordinate of a general already suggested as an answer. The other played an important part in the formation of the Finnish Army in the early 1920's, had been retired well over a decade when the Winter War started and served in diplomatic assignments during the WWII.

[Harri]

Lieutenant-General Oscar Enckell (1878 - 1960) and Major-General Väinö Svanström (1884 - 1966).

[Mikko H.]

There you go, Harri.

Väinö Svanström served in 1918 for a while as lieutenant-colonel of the National Armenian Army. Oscar Enckell, after serving most of the WWI as the Russian liaison officer in the Italian Supreme HQ, joined Serbian Army.

[Harri]

Thanks Mikko. Were there yet someone not mentioned?

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Question: Name three foreign volunteer pilots who served in the Finnish Air Force between 1939 - 1941 and were born noblemen or royals. Tell also their nationality and home country (if for some reason not the same ).

[Esa K]

I say:

1. Count Erhard K. J. Frijs - Denmark

2. Count Carl-Gustaf von Rosen - Sweden

3. Prince Emanuel Galitzine - Russian - England

(Two first somewhat from memory, the third with some help from these pages by a Harri A. )

http://www.geocities.com/finnmilpge


Regards

Esa K

[Harri]

Oh....Damn! And I say the answer is correct and there is nothing more to add.

Next time I have to rely on my yet non-published pages!!!

Over to Sweden!

[Esa K]

Thanks Harri...

...and:

"Next time I have to rely on my yet non-published pages!!!"

...good idea, then all of us here who regulary visits your pages don«t need to wait for the updates of them




My q:

IV, XXX, XXXVII, XCVII, XCIX, CVIII, CIX, CX, CXV, CXXVII

Roman numbers? Yep. And, if you find these specific numbers on a list, what is it then probably about?



Esa K

[Tapani K.]

Looks like they are Soviet Corps attacking Finnish forces in 1944.

regards,
Tapani K.

[Esa K]

Yes they are the Soviet Corps that attacked in summer 1944.

XXX Guards Corp, XCVII Corp, CVIII Corp, CIX Corp, CX Corp, CXV Corp on the carelian Isthmus, and
in Eastern Carelia IV Corp, XXXVII Guards Corp, XCIX Corp, CXXVII Light Corp.


again, over, with regards, from Esa K to Tapani K.